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On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 18:40:26 -0400, "Sid9"
wrote:
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>"FirstPost" wrote in message
>news:8vdem8914ekqmi4teocd0fdn7n1lpkfoqq@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:09:51 -0500, David Hartung
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>>>On 04/11/2013 05:04 PM, wy wrote:
>>>> On 11 Apr, 17:56, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>> On 04/11/2013 03:27 PM, Sid9 wrote:
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>>>>>> "David Hartung" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4bednRQ-eqZBnvrMnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>> On 04/11/2013 01:24 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>>>>>>>> "David Hartung" wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:OPWdnTWvAtVvYPvMnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>>> On 04/11/2013 01:13 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "David Hartung" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:QuedndquSM7ZZPvMnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Roger Wicker(R MS) voted in favor of cloture today, which
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> move the unconstitutional and unconscionable gun bill forward to
>>>>>>>>>>> floor
>>>>>>>>>>> debate. Should this bill become law, more innocent people will
>>>>>>>>>>> die
>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>> the ability of law abiding citizens to defend themselves will
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>> further curtailed.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not to worry.
>>>>>>>>>> The proposed legislation is crap.
>>>>>>>>>> It's loaded with NRA loopholes and escape clauses.
>>>>>>>>>> Nothing effective will come out of this congress
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>>>>>>>>> This from the man who would prefer to see the American Citizen
>>>>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>>>> disarmed.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not true.
>>>>>>>> Or correctly, you lie.
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>>>>>>>> I have never advocated the total removal of arms from America.
>>>>>>>> It can't be done.
>>>>>>>> No laws or regulations can do that.
>>>>>>>> That's an NRA boogie man.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are an estimated 300,000,000 firearms in the USA.
>>>>>>>> There are 12 million undocumented aliens in the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can't find either.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What we need is some non-IRA sanity in firearm regulation.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .....but 20 dead children and six dead adults are not enough yet to
>>>>>>>> treat
>>>>>>>> this issue rationally
>>>>>
>>>>>>> You speak of rationality, yet you have yet to advance a single
>>>>>>> rational explanation of how the laws currently under consideration
>>>>>>> will prevent another Sandy Hook.
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>>>>>> 1. much smaller magazines would have saved lives in allowing some of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> victims to escape.
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>>>>> Really? You can support this with objective documentation?
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>>>> Simple math. One gun with six shots would kill 6 kids. One gun with
>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids. Boy, you're stupid.
>>>
>>>Which is not proof. How about providing some of this documentation Sud
>>>says you post.
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>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it takes under 2
>> seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and immediately begin
>> firing again without even having to recock the weapon.
>> Boy, wy really is stupid.
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>Maybe true in practice firings.
>More likely not true in the emotional high of killing children and their
>teachers.
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>There's no hope with a large magazine.
>There' a slight chance to escape when reloading is required
>Some chance is better than no chance for the victims
Well said.
In the time it took Adam Lanza to reload, 11 children escaped.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/02/1198740/-In-the-time-it
took-Adam-Lanza-to-reload-11-children-escaped
"We have learned that in the time it took him to reload in one of the
classrooms, 11 children were able to escape.
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