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From: wy_@myself.com
On 12 Apr, 22:51, "Scout"
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> > "Wayne" wrote in message
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> >> "FirstPost" wrote in message
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> >> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 11:21:44 -0500, David Hartung
> >> wrote:
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> >>>On 04/12/2013 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:
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> >>>> "David Hartung" wrote in message
> >>>>news:W_ydnViZr5r-rfXMnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...
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> >>>> On 04/12/2013 10:46 AM, FirstPost wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:17:34 -0400, "Scout"
> >>>>> wrote:
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> >>>>>> "deep" wrote in message
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> >>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:27:15 -0500, FirstPost
> >>>>>>> wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>>> Simple math. One gun with six shots would kill 6 kids. One gun
> >>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids. Boy, you're stupid.
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> >>>>>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this documentation
> >>>>>>>>> Sud
> >>>>>>>>> says you post.
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> >>>>>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it takes under 2
> >>>>>>>> seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and immediately begin
> >>>>>>>> firing again without even having to recock the weapon.
> >>>>>>>> Boy, wy really is stupid.
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> >>>>>>> Well, not exactly, so I guess it's you that's stupid. The slide
> >>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>> be locked back and you have to actuate the slide release lever so
> >>>>>>> effectively it's the same amount of movement. And it's during
> >>>>>>> reloads
> >>>>>>> when people can get away, take cover, or somebody tackles them. Or
> >>>>>>> the shooter can drop his magazine even. Most people are super fast
> >>>>>>> speed shooting heros like you. Matter of fact, most spree shooters
> >>>>>>> are hardly trained at all.
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> >>>>>> And yet, you claim that it takes tons of training to be able to take
> >>>>>> out a
> >>>>>> spree shooter.
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> >>>>> I take my gun out and practice maybe once a year.
> >>>>> Ejecting a clip is a matter of pushing a button with your thumb on the
> >>>>> side of the gun and the clip pops out. Slappinng a new clip in takes
> >>>>> about as long regardless of experience. The slide on the gun
> >>>>> re-engages with the flick of another small lever after the clip is
> >>>>> inserted and then it is just amattter of squeexing the trigger.
> >>>>> Taught my nephew how to to exactly that at the age of 14.
> >>>>> Took him all of 5 minutes to become proficient at it.
> >>>>> Until I bought my S&W 4006 back in 97 I had never used a semi auto in
> >>>>> my life. Always used a revolver before.
> >>>>> But then leave to a liberal to make something as simple as wiping your
> >>>>> ass out to be some complex high skill task.
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> >>>> # It has been many years since I last fired an M16, but the process is
> >>>> # about the same. The bolt locks open when the last round is fired out
> >>>> of
> >>>> # a clip. One button to drop the magazine out, slap another one in, and
> >>>> # push another button to release the bolt, which chambers the next
> >>>> round
> >>>> # and cocks the weapon.
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> >>>> # It would seem that most of our liberal brethren on this forum have no
> >>>> # idea how a weapon actually works.
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> >>>> Quite true. The libtards operate on emotion only.
> >>>> And IMHO, a handgun magazine is easier to swap than a rifle.
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> >>>> Also if a Sandy Hook type of incident is considered, the perp could
> >>>> have
> >>>> just blocked the door while taking a minute to swap magazines.
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> >>>Once again the question becomes, what do our elected leaders truly think
> >>>they will accomplish by throwing up additional roadblocks in front of
> >>>citizens who wish to own weapons?
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> >>>A related question, how can our fellow citizens be so blind that they
> >>>cannot see that restricting the rights of law abiding citizens does not
> >>>make them safer from criminals?
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> >> # One of the Sandy Hook parents tried to make that exact point to the
> >> # government. More gun laws only make things more complicated and
> >> # difficult for those of us who obey laws. All the laws in the world
> >> # aren't going to keep criminals from obtaining and using illegal
> >> # weapons. It's what makes them criminals, duh.
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> >> And the people who will follow those insane laws are not the people who
> >> are the problem.
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> > We don't have a gun law that does not have the fingerprint of an NRA
> > loophole.
> > They are designed to be ineffective.
> > The new proposed law is ineffective.
> > Congress should not waste time on it.
> > Obama should not sign it.
> > It's bullshit
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> So basically what you're telling me is that those opposed to guns can't
> craft reasonable legislation that fulfills their state objectives without
> producing objectionable violations of innocent people's rights.
What objectionable violations? You'd still be able to own a gun.
What other rights are you talking about that the Constitution gives?
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> In that case...Congress should refuse to even consider such a bill.
And Repugnants most likely will.
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