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"Scout" wrote in message
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> "Sid9" wrote in message
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>> "Wayne" wrote in message
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>>> "FirstPost" wrote in message
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>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 11:21:44 -0500, David Hartung
>>> wrote:
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>>>>On 04/12/2013 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "David Hartung" wrote in message
>>>>> news:W_ydnViZr5r-rfXMnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...
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>>>>> On 04/12/2013 10:46 AM, FirstPost wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:17:34 -0400, "Scout"
>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:18gem8dakvucu3ohfuu4c2rvia5sb3ra1g@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:27:15 -0500, FirstPost
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Simple math. One gun with six shots would kill 6 kids. One gun
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids. Boy, you're stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this
>>>>>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>>>>>> Sud
>>>>>>>>>> says you post.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it takes under 2
>>>>>>>>> seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and immediately begin
>>>>>>>>> firing again without even having to recock the weapon.
>>>>>>>>> Boy, wy really is stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, not exactly, so I guess it's you that's stupid. The slide
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> be locked back and you have to actuate the slide release lever so
>>>>>>>> effectively it's the same amount of movement. And it's during
>>>>>>>> reloads
>>>>>>>> when people can get away, take cover, or somebody tackles them. Or
>>>>>>>> the shooter can drop his magazine even. Most people are super fast
>>>>>>>> speed shooting heros like you. Matter of fact, most spree shooters
>>>>>>>> are hardly trained at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yet, you claim that it takes tons of training to be able to take
>>>>>>> out a
>>>>>>> spree shooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I take my gun out and practice maybe once a year.
>>>>>> Ejecting a clip is a matter of pushing a button with your thumb on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> side of the gun and the clip pops out. Slappinng a new clip in takes
>>>>>> about as long regardless of experience. The slide on the gun
>>>>>> re-engages with the flick of another small lever after the clip is
>>>>>> inserted and then it is just amattter of squeexing the trigger.
>>>>>> Taught my nephew how to to exactly that at the age of 14.
>>>>>> Took him all of 5 minutes to become proficient at it.
>>>>>> Until I bought my S&W 4006 back in 97 I had never used a semi auto in
>>>>>> my life. Always used a revolver before.
>>>>>> But then leave to a liberal to make something as simple as wiping
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> ass out to be some complex high skill task.
>>>>>
>>>>> # It has been many years since I last fired an M16, but the process is
>>>>> # about the same. The bolt locks open when the last round is fired out
>>>>> of
>>>>> # a clip. One button to drop the magazine out, slap another one in,
>>>>> and
>>>>> # push another button to release the bolt, which chambers the next
>>>>> round
>>>>> # and cocks the weapon.
>>>>>
>>>>> # It would seem that most of our liberal brethren on this forum have
>>>>> no
>>>>> # idea how a weapon actually works.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite true. The libtards operate on emotion only.
>>>>> And IMHO, a handgun magazine is easier to swap than a rifle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also if a Sandy Hook type of incident is considered, the perp could
>>>>> have
>>>>> just blocked the door while taking a minute to swap magazines.
>>>>
>>>>Once again the question becomes, what do our elected leaders truly think
>>>>they will accomplish by throwing up additional roadblocks in front of
>>>>citizens who wish to own weapons?
>>>>
>>>>A related question, how can our fellow citizens be so blind that they
>>>>cannot see that restricting the rights of law abiding citizens does not
>>>>make them safer from criminals?
>>>
>>> # One of the Sandy Hook parents tried to make that exact point to the
>>> # government. More gun laws only make things more complicated and
>>> # difficult for those of us who obey laws. All the laws in the world
>>> # aren't going to keep criminals from obtaining and using illegal
>>> # weapons. It's what makes them criminals, duh.
>>>
>>> And the people who will follow those insane laws are not the people who
>>> are the problem.
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>> We don't have a gun law that does not have the fingerprint of an NRA
>> loophole.
>> They are designed to be ineffective.
>> The new proposed law is ineffective.
>> Congress should not waste time on it.
>> Obama should not sign it.
>> It's bullshit
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> So basically what you're telling me is that those opposed to guns can't
> craft reasonable legislation that fulfills their state objectives without
> producing objectionable violations of innocent people's rights.
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> In that case...Congress should refuse to even consider such a bill.
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My words are clear.
They don't need your help.
We have a congress that's bought and paid for by the gun industry through
the NRA, its agent.
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