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   From: sid9@   
      
   "David Hartung"  wrote in message   
   news:9oidnSGj5LGxTfXMnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   > On 04/12/2013 09:05 PM, Sid9 wrote:   
   >>   
   >> "Wayne"  wrote in message   
   >> news:kka8hq$t31$1@dont-email.me...   
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   >>> "FirstPost"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:ir1hm85nj70s2gg4asbci8nkfis6c6cgpv@4ax.com...   
   >>>   
   >>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 11:21:44 -0500, David Hartung    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 04/12/2013 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:   
   >>>>>   
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   >>>>> "David Hartung"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:W_ydnViZr5r-rfXMnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> On 04/12/2013 10:46 AM, FirstPost wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:17:34 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> news:18gem8dakvucu3ohfuu4c2rvia5sb3ra1g@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:27:15 -0500, FirstPost   
   >>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Simple math.  One gun with six shots would kill 6 kids.  One gun   
   >>>>>>>>>>> with   
   >>>>>>>>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids.  Boy, you're stupid.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this   
   >>>>>>>>>> documentation   
   >>>>>>>>>> Sud   
   >>>>>>>>>> says you post.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it takes under 2   
   >>>>>>>>> seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and immediately begin   
   >>>>>>>>> firing again without even having to recock the weapon.   
   >>>>>>>>> Boy, wy really is stupid.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Well, not exactly, so I guess it's you that's stupid.  The slide   
   >>>>>>>> will   
   >>>>>>>> be locked back and you have to actuate the slide release lever so   
   >>>>>>>> effectively it's the same amount of movement.  And it's during   
   >>>>>>>> reloads   
   >>>>>>>> when people can get away, take cover, or somebody tackles them.  Or   
   >>>>>>>> the shooter can drop his magazine even.  Most people are super fast   
   >>>>>>>> speed shooting heros like you.  Matter of fact, most spree shooters   
   >>>>>>>> are hardly trained at all.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> And yet, you claim that it takes tons of training to be able to take   
   >>>>>>> out a   
   >>>>>>> spree shooter.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I take my gun out and practice maybe once a year.   
   >>>>>> Ejecting a clip is a matter of pushing a button with your thumb on   
   >>>>>> the   
   >>>>>> side of the gun and the clip pops out.  Slappinng a new clip in takes   
   >>>>>> about as long regardless of experience.  The slide on the gun   
   >>>>>> re-engages with the flick of another small lever after the clip is   
   >>>>>> inserted and then it is just amattter of squeexing the trigger.   
   >>>>>> Taught my nephew how to to exactly that at the age of 14.   
   >>>>>> Took him all of 5 minutes to become proficient at it.   
   >>>>>> Until I bought my S&W 4006 back in 97 I had never used a semi auto in   
   >>>>>> my life.  Always used a revolver before.   
   >>>>>> But then leave to a liberal to make something as simple as wiping   
   >>>>>> your   
   >>>>>> ass out to be some complex high skill task.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> # It has been many years since I last fired an M16, but the process is   
   >>>>> # about the same. The bolt locks open when the last round is fired   
   >>>>> out of   
   >>>>> # a clip. One button to drop the magazine out, slap another one in,   
   >>>>> and   
   >>>>> # push another button to release the bolt, which chambers the next   
   >>>>> round   
   >>>>> # and cocks the weapon.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> # It would seem that most of our liberal brethren on this forum have   
   >>>>> no   
   >>>>> # idea how a weapon actually works.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Quite true.  The libtards operate on emotion only.   
   >>>>> And IMHO, a handgun magazine is easier to swap than a rifle.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Also if a Sandy Hook type of incident is considered, the perp could   
   >>>>> have   
   >>>>> just blocked the door while taking a minute to swap magazines.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Once again the question becomes, what do our elected leaders truly   
   >>>> think   
   >>>> they will accomplish by throwing up additional roadblocks in front of   
   >>>> citizens who wish to own weapons?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> A related question, how can our fellow citizens be so blind that they   
   >>>> cannot see that restricting the rights of law abiding citizens does not   
   >>>> make them safer from criminals?   
   >>>   
   >>> # One of the Sandy Hook parents tried to make that exact point to the   
   >>> # government.  More gun laws only make things more complicated and   
   >>> # difficult for those of us who obey laws.  All the laws in the world   
   >>> # aren't going to keep criminals from obtaining and using illegal   
   >>> # weapons.  It's what makes them criminals, duh.   
   >>>   
   >>> And the people who will follow those insane laws are not the people   
   >>> who are the problem.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> We don't have a gun law that does not have the fingerprint of an NRA   
   >> loophole.   
   >> They are designed to be ineffective.   
   >> The new proposed law is ineffective.   
   >> Congress should not waste time on it.   
   >> Obama should not sign it.   
   >> It's bullshit   
   >   
   > You have been making this claim for several days. Back it up, or go away.   
      
   Read the proposed bill.   
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