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From: wy_@myself.com
On 13 Apr, 13:06, "Wayne" wrote:
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> > "Sid9" wrote in messagenews:kkbv04$26q$1@dont-email.me...
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> > "wy" wrote in message
> >news:c756ce31-be4f-43ef-af3a-cdff6a03e6c3@x14g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> >> On 12 Apr, 12:21, David Hartung wrote:
> >>> On 04/12/2013 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:
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> >>> > "David Hartung" wrote in message
> >>> >news:W_ydnViZr5r-rfXMnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...
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> >>> > On 04/12/2013 10:46 AM, FirstPost wrote:
> >>> >> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:17:34 -0400, "Scout"
> >>> >> wrote:
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> >>> >>> "deep" wrote in message
> >>> >>>news:18gem8dakvucu3ohfuu4c2rvia5sb3ra1g@4ax.com...
> >>> >>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:27:15 -0500, FirstPost
> >>> >>>> wrote:
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> >>> >>>>>>> Simple math. One gun with six shots would kill 6 kids. One gun
> >>> >>>>>>> with
> >>> >>>>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids. Boy, you're stupid.
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> >>> >>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this
> >>> >>>>>> documentation
> >>> >>>>>> Sud
> >>> >>>>>> says you post.
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> >>> >>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it takes under 2
> >>> >>>>> seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and immediately begin
> >>> >>>>> firing again without even having to recock the weapon.
> >>> >>>>> Boy, wy really is stupid.
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> >>> >>>> Well, not exactly, so I guess it's you that's stupid. The slide
> >>> >>>> will
> >>> >>>> be locked back and you have to actuate the slide release lever so
> >>> >>>> effectively it's the same amount of movement. And it's during
> >>> >>>> reloads
> >>> >>>> when people can get away, take cover, or somebody tackles them. Or
> >>> >>>> the shooter can drop his magazine even. Most people are super fast
> >>> >>>> speed shooting heros like you. Matter of fact, most spree shooters
> >>> >>>> are hardly trained at all.
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> >>> >>> And yet, you claim that it takes tons of training to be able to take
> >>> >>> out a
> >>> >>> spree shooter.
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> >>> >> I take my gun out and practice maybe once a year.
> >>> >> Ejecting a clip is a matter of pushing a button with your thumb on
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> side of the gun and the clip pops out. Slappinng a new clip in takes
> >>> >> about as long regardless of experience. The slide on the gun
> >>> >> re-engages with the flick of another small lever after the clip is
> >>> >> inserted and then it is just amattter of squeexing the trigger.
> >>> >> Taught my nephew how to to exactly that at the age of 14.
> >>> >> Took him all of 5 minutes to become proficient at it.
> >>> >> Until I bought my S&W 4006 back in 97 I had never used a semi auto in
> >>> >> my life. Always used a revolver before.
> >>> >> But then leave to a liberal to make something as simple as wiping
> >>> >> your
> >>> >> ass out to be some complex high skill task.
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> >>> > # It has been many years since I last fired an M16, but the process is
> >>> > # about the same. The bolt locks open when the last round is fired out
> >>> > of
> >>> > # a clip. One button to drop the magazine out, slap another one in,
> >>> > and
> >>> > # push another button to release the bolt, which chambers the next
> >>> > round
> >>> > # and cocks the weapon.
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> >>> > # It would seem that most of our liberal brethren on this forum have
> >>> > no
> >>> > # idea how a weapon actually works.
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> >>> > Quite true. The libtards operate on emotion only.
> >>> > And IMHO, a handgun magazine is easier to swap than a rifle.
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> >>> > Also if a Sandy Hook type of incident is considered, the perp could
> >>> > have
> >>> > just blocked the door while taking a minute to swap magazines.
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> >>> Once again the question becomes, what do our elected leaders truly think
> >>> they will accomplish by throwing up additional roadblocks in front of
> >>> citizens who wish to own weapons?
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> >>> A related question, how can our fellow citizens be so blind that they
> >>> cannot see that restricting the rights of law abiding citizens does not
> >>> make them safer from criminals?
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> >> The gun bill doesn't prevent you from owning guns. Stop with your
> >> right wingnut hysteria.
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> > # The gun bill, among other things, allows unchecked private sales.
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> > As it should. The feds should not be regulating private sales of any
> > inanimate objects.
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> > # A legitimate gun buyer may sell his newly purchased gun to a maniacal
> > killer
> > # with no government sanity check.
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> > Bullshit. The only legal way I can buy a gun is through a FFL.
> > If I buy it over the internet, it is shipped to the FFL, a background
> > check is performed, I make two trips (separated by 10 days)
> > to the FFL to fill out 20 or so pieces of paperwork.
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> > If I buy from an individual, both of us have to go to the FFL and perform
> > the above process.
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> > If I buy from a store, I perform the above process at the store.
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> > Some states have more restrictive laws than that, some have less.
> > CT is one of the states that already had restrictive laws, and the new
> > ones won't do squat.
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> > The feds need to stay the hell out of this.
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> # If you sell your gun privately there is NO sanity check on the buyer.
> # Did you miss that by accident or intentionally?
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> I didn't miss that at all. You missed it.
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> "Private" gun sales are sales between individuals, and I did address that.
> BOTH parties must appear at a FFL at the same time, and go through the
> process.
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> I cannot give a gun to anyone, even a relative such as a son or grandson.
There's nothing to stop a son or grandson or your wife or any member
of the family or any friend from just taking it either if you just so
happen to leave it available out in the open. No sale is required.
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> In short, there is no way I can participate legally in a gun transaction
> without having a FFL involved.
"Since it began in 1998, the NICS check has stopped nearly 1 million
people from buying guns, at least from a federally licensed dealer.
But those people aren’t precluded from then going to a gun show, where
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