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>>>> On 12 Apr, 12:21, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>> On 04/12/2013 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:
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>>>>> > "David Hartung" wrote in message
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>>>>> > On 04/12/2013 10:46 AM, FirstPost wrote:
>>>>> >> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:17:34 -0400, "Scout"
>>>>> >> wrote:
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>>>>> >>> "deep" wrote in message
>>>>> >>>news:18gem8dakvucu3ohfuu4c2rvia5sb3ra1g@4ax.com...
>>>>> >>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:27:15 -0500, FirstPost
>>>>> >>>> wrote:
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>>>>> >>>>>>> Simple math. One gun with six shots would kill 6 kids. One
>>>>> >>>>>>> gun
>>>>> >>>>>>> with
>>>>> >>>>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids. Boy, you're stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this
>>>>> >>>>>> documentation
>>>>> >>>>>> Sud
>>>>> >>>>>> says you post.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it takes under
>>>>> >>>>> 2
>>>>> >>>>> seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and immediately
>>>>> >>>>> begin
>>>>> >>>>> firing again without even having to recock the weapon.
>>>>> >>>>> Boy, wy really is stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> Well, not exactly, so I guess it's you that's stupid. The slide
>>>>> >>>> will
>>>>> >>>> be locked back and you have to actuate the slide release lever so
>>>>> >>>> effectively it's the same amount of movement. And it's during
>>>>> >>>> reloads
>>>>> >>>> when people can get away, take cover, or somebody tackles them.
>>>>> >>>> Or
>>>>> >>>> the shooter can drop his magazine even. Most people are super
>>>>> >>>> fast
>>>>> >>>> speed shooting heros like you. Matter of fact, most spree
>>>>> >>>> shooters
>>>>> >>>> are hardly trained at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> And yet, you claim that it takes tons of training to be able to
>>>>> >>> take
>>>>> >>> out a
>>>>> >>> spree shooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> >> I take my gun out and practice maybe once a year.
>>>>> >> Ejecting a clip is a matter of pushing a button with your thumb on
>>>>> >> the
>>>>> >> side of the gun and the clip pops out. Slappinng a new clip in
>>>>> >> takes
>>>>> >> about as long regardless of experience. The slide on the gun
>>>>> >> re-engages with the flick of another small lever after the clip is
>>>>> >> inserted and then it is just amattter of squeexing the trigger.
>>>>> >> Taught my nephew how to to exactly that at the age of 14.
>>>>> >> Took him all of 5 minutes to become proficient at it.
>>>>> >> Until I bought my S&W 4006 back in 97 I had never used a semi auto
>>>>> >> in
>>>>> >> my life. Always used a revolver before.
>>>>> >> But then leave to a liberal to make something as simple as wiping
>>>>> >> your
>>>>> >> ass out to be some complex high skill task.
>>>>>
>>>>> > # It has been many years since I last fired an M16, but the process
>>>>> > is
>>>>> > # about the same. The bolt locks open when the last round is fired
>>>>> > out of
>>>>> > # a clip. One button to drop the magazine out, slap another one in,
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > # push another button to release the bolt, which chambers the next
>>>>> > round
>>>>> > # and cocks the weapon.
>>>>>
>>>>> > # It would seem that most of our liberal brethren on this forum have
>>>>> > no
>>>>> > # idea how a weapon actually works.
>>>>>
>>>>> > Quite true. The libtards operate on emotion only.
>>>>> > And IMHO, a handgun magazine is easier to swap than a rifle.
>>>>>
>>>>> > Also if a Sandy Hook type of incident is considered, the perp could
>>>>> > have
>>>>> > just blocked the door while taking a minute to swap magazines.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once again the question becomes, what do our elected leaders truly
>>>>> think
>>>>> they will accomplish by throwing up additional roadblocks in front of
>>>>> citizens who wish to own weapons?
>>>>>
>>>>> A related question, how can our fellow citizens be so blind that they
>>>>> cannot see that restricting the rights of law abiding citizens does
>>>>> not
>>>>> make them safer from criminals?
>>>>
>>>> The gun bill doesn't prevent you from owning guns. Stop with your
>>>> right wingnut hysteria.
>>> .
>>> .
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>>> # The gun bill, among other things, allows unchecked private sales.
>>>
>>> As it should. The feds should not be regulating private sales of any
>>> inanimate objects.
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>>> # A legitimate gun buyer may sell his newly purchased gun to a maniacal
>>> killer
>>> # with no government sanity check.
>>>
>>> Bullshit. The only legal way I can buy a gun is through a FFL.
>>> If I buy it over the internet, it is shipped to the FFL, a background
>>> check is performed, I make two trips (separated by 10 days)
>>> to the FFL to fill out 20 or so pieces of paperwork.
>>>
>>> If I buy from an individual, both of us have to go to the FFL and
>>> perform the above process.
>>>
>>> If I buy from a store, I perform the above process at the store.
>>>
>>> Some states have more restrictive laws than that, some have less.
>>> CT is one of the states that already had restrictive laws, and the new
>>> ones won't do squat.
>>>
>>> The feds need to stay the hell out of this.
>>>
>>>
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>> # If you sell your gun privately there is NO sanity check on the buyer.
>> # Did you miss that by accident or intentionally?
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>> I didn't miss that at all. You missed it.
>>
>> "Private" gun sales are sales between individuals, and I did address
>> that.
>> BOTH parties must appear at a FFL at the same time, and go through the
>> process.
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>> I cannot give a gun to anyone, even a relative such as a son or grandson.
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>> In short, there is no way I can participate legally in a gun transaction
>> without having a FFL involved.
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