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   "wy"  wrote in message   
   news:ba0dbed9-8e9a-4473-94ae-53e0af35844c@gb2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...   
   > On 13 Apr, 13:28, RD Sandman    
   > wrote:   
   >> wy  wrote   
   >> innews:fcfbc689-5545-4ca4-9b33-4f2974c99de7@r7g2000vbw.googlegroups.com:   
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   >> > On 12 Apr, 22:51, "Scout"    
   >> > wrote:   
   >> >> "Sid9"  wrote in message   
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   >> >>news:kkaecf$qs7$1@dont-email.me...   
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   >> >> > "Wayne"  wrote in message   
   >> >> >news:kka8hq$t31$1@dont-email.me...   
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   >> >> >> "FirstPost" wrote in message   
   >> >> >>news:ir1hm85nj70s2gg4asbci8nkfis6c6cgpv@4ax.com...   
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   >> >> >> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 11:21:44 -0500, David Hartung   
   >> >> >>  wrote:   
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   >> >> >>>On 04/12/2013 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:   
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   >> >> >>>> "David Hartung" wrote in message   
   >> >> >>>>news:W_ydnViZr5r-rfXMnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
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   >> >> >>>> On 04/12/2013 10:46 AM, FirstPost wrote:   
   >> >> >>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:17:34 -0400, "Scout"   
   >> >> >>>>>  wrote:   
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   >> >> >>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >> >> >>>>>>news:18gem8dakvucu3ohfuu4c2rvia5sb3ra1g@4ax.com...   
   >> >> >>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:27:15 -0500, FirstPost   
   >> >> >>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Simple math. One gun with six shots would kill 6 kids. O   
   >> > ne gun   
   >> >> >>>>>>>>>> with   
   >> >> >>>>>>>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids. Boy, you're stupid.   
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   >> >> >>>>>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this   
   >> >> >>>>>>>>> documentat   
   >> > ion   
   >> >> >>>>>>>>> Sud   
   >> >> >>>>>>>>> says you post.   
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   >> >> >>>>>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it takes   
   >> >> >>>>>>>> under   
   >> >  2   
   >> >> >>>>>>>> seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and immediately   
   >> >> >>>>>>>> beg   
   >> > in   
   >> >> >>>>>>>> firing again without even having to recock the weapon.   
   >> >> >>>>>>>> Boy, wy really is stupid.   
   >>   
   >> >> >>>>>>> Well, not exactly, so I guess it's you that's stupid. The   
   >> >> >>>>>>> slid   
   >> > e   
   >> >> >>>>>>> will   
   >> >> >>>>>>> be locked back and you have to actuate the slide release   
   >> >> >>>>>>> lever so effectively it's the same amount of movement. And   
   >> >> >>>>>>> it's during reloads   
   >> >> >>>>>>> when people can get away, take cover, or somebody tackles   
   >> >> >>>>>>> them.   
   >> > Or   
   >> >> >>>>>>> the shooter can drop his magazine even. Most people are   
   >> >> >>>>>>> super   
   >> > fast   
   >> >> >>>>>>> speed shooting heros like you. Matter of fact, most spree   
   >> >> >>>>>>> shoo   
   >> > ters   
   >> >> >>>>>>> are hardly trained at all.   
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   >> >> >>>>>> And yet, you claim that it takes tons of training to be able   
   >> >> >>>>>> to ta   
   >> > ke   
   >> >> >>>>>> out a   
   >> >> >>>>>> spree shooter.   
   >>   
   >> >> >>>>> I take my gun out and practice maybe once a year.   
   >> >> >>>>> Ejecting a clip is a matter of pushing a button with your thumb   
   >> >> >>>>> on   
   >> > the   
   >> >> >>>>> side of the gun and the clip pops out. Slappinng a new clip in   
   >> >> >>>>> t   
   >> > akes   
   >> >> >>>>> about as long regardless of experience. The slide on the gun   
   >> >> >>>>> re-engages with the flick of another small lever after the clip   
   >> >> >>>>> is inserted and then it is just amattter of squeexing the   
   >> >> >>>>> trigger. Taught my nephew how to to exactly that at the age of   
   >> >> >>>>> 14. Took him all of 5 minutes to become proficient at it.   
   >> >> >>>>> Until I bought my S&W 4006 back in 97 I had never used a semi   
   >> >> >>>>> auto   
   >> > in   
   >> >> >>>>> my life. Always used a revolver before.   
   >> >> >>>>> But then leave to a liberal to make something as simple as   
   >> >> >>>>> wiping y   
   >> > our   
   >> >> >>>>> ass out to be some complex high skill task.   
   >>   
   >> >> >>>> # It has been many years since I last fired an M16, but the   
   >> >> >>>> process   
   >> > is   
   >> >> >>>> # about the same. The bolt locks open when the last round is   
   >> >> >>>> fired o   
   >> > ut   
   >> >> >>>> of   
   >> >> >>>> # a clip. One button to drop the magazine out, slap another one   
   >> >> >>>> in,   
   >> > and   
   >> >> >>>> # push another button to release the bolt, which chambers the   
   >> >> >>>> next round   
   >> >> >>>> # and cocks the weapon.   
   >>   
   >> >> >>>> # It would seem that most of our liberal brethren on this forum   
   >> >> >>>> have   
   >> >  no   
   >> >> >>>> # idea how a weapon actually works.   
   >>   
   >> >> >>>> Quite true. The libtards operate on emotion only.   
   >> >> >>>> And IMHO, a handgun magazine is easier to swap than a rifle.   
   >>   
   >> >> >>>> Also if a Sandy Hook type of incident is considered, the perp   
   >> >> >>>> could have   
   >> >> >>>> just blocked the door while taking a minute to swap magazines.   
   >>   
   >> >> >>>Once again the question becomes, what do our elected leaders truly   
   >> >> >>>thi   
   >> > nk   
   >> >> >>>they will accomplish by throwing up additional roadblocks in front   
   >> >> >>>of citizens who wish to own weapons?   
   >>   
   >> >> >>>A related question, how can our fellow citizens be so blind that   
   >> >> >>>they cannot see that restricting the rights of law abiding   
   >> >> >>>citizens does no   
   >> > t   
   >> >> >>>make them safer from criminals?   
   >>   
   >> >> >> # One of the Sandy Hook parents tried to make that exact point to   
   >> >> >> the # government. More gun laws only make things more complicated   
   >> >> >> and # difficult for those of us who obey laws. All the laws in   
   >> >> >> the worl   
   >> > d   
   >> >> >> # aren't going to keep criminals from obtaining and using illegal   
   >> >> >> # weapons. It's what makes them criminals, duh.   
   >>   
   >> >> >> And the people who will follow those insane laws are not the   
   >> >> >> people wh   
   >> > o   
   >> >> >> are the problem.   
   >>   
   >> >> > We don't have a gun law that does not have the fingerprint of an   
   >> >> > NRA loophole.   
   >> >> > They are designed to be ineffective.   
   >> >> > The new proposed law is ineffective.   
   >> >> > Congress should not waste time on it.   
   >> >> > Obama should not sign it.   
   >> >> > It's bullshit   
   >>   
   >> >> So basically what you're telling me is that those opposed to guns   
   >> >> can't craft reasonable legislation that fulfills their state   
   >> >> objectives without producing objectionable violations of innocent   
   >> >> people's rights.   
   >>   
   >> > What objectionable violations?  You'd still be able to own a gun.   
   >>   
   >> Not necssarily the ones I want.   
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