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From: wy_@myself.com
On 13 Apr, 13:28, RD Sandman
wrote:
> wy wrote innews:fcfbc689-5545-4ca4-9b33-4f29
4c99de7@r7g2000vbw.googlegroups.com:
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> > On 12 Apr, 22:51, "Scout"
> > wrote:
> >> "Sid9" wrote in message
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> >>news:kkaecf$qs7$1@dont-email.me...
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> >> > "Wayne" wrote in message
> >> >news:kka8hq$t31$1@dont-email.me...
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> >> >> "FirstPost" wrote in message
> >> >>news:ir1hm85nj70s2gg4asbci8nkfis6c6cgpv@4ax.com...
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> >> >> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 11:21:44 -0500, David Hartung
> >> >> wrote:
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> >> >>>On 04/12/2013 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:
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> >> >>>> "David Hartung" wrote in message
> >> >>>>news:W_ydnViZr5r-rfXMnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...
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> >> >>>> On 04/12/2013 10:46 AM, FirstPost wrote:
> >> >>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:17:34 -0400, "Scout"
> >> >>>>> wrote:
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> >> >>>>>> "deep" wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>news:18gem8dakvucu3ohfuu4c2rvia5sb3ra1g@4ax.com...
> >> >>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:27:15 -0500, FirstPost
> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
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> >> >>>>>>>>>> Simple math. One gun with six shots would kill 6 kids. O
> > ne gun
> >> >>>>>>>>>> with
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids. Boy, you're stupid.
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> >> >>>>>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this
> >> >>>>>>>>> documentat
> > ion
> >> >>>>>>>>> Sud
> >> >>>>>>>>> says you post.
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> >> >>>>>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it takes
> >> >>>>>>>> under
> > 2
> >> >>>>>>>> seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and immediately
> >> >>>>>>>> beg
> > in
> >> >>>>>>>> firing again without even having to recock the weapon.
> >> >>>>>>>> Boy, wy really is stupid.
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> >> >>>>>>> Well, not exactly, so I guess it's you that's stupid. The
> >> >>>>>>> slid
> > e
> >> >>>>>>> will
> >> >>>>>>> be locked back and you have to actuate the slide release
> >> >>>>>>> lever so effectively it's the same amount of movement. And
> >> >>>>>>> it's during reloads
> >> >>>>>>> when people can get away, take cover, or somebody tackles
> >> >>>>>>> them.
> > Or
> >> >>>>>>> the shooter can drop his magazine even. Most people are
> >> >>>>>>> super
> > fast
> >> >>>>>>> speed shooting heros like you. Matter of fact, most spree
> >> >>>>>>> shoo
> > ters
> >> >>>>>>> are hardly trained at all.
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> >> >>>>>> And yet, you claim that it takes tons of training to be able
> >> >>>>>> to ta
> > ke
> >> >>>>>> out a
> >> >>>>>> spree shooter.
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> >> >>>>> I take my gun out and practice maybe once a year.
> >> >>>>> Ejecting a clip is a matter of pushing a button with your thumb
> >> >>>>> on
> > the
> >> >>>>> side of the gun and the clip pops out. Slappinng a new clip in
> >> >>>>> t
> > akes
> >> >>>>> about as long regardless of experience. The slide on the gun
> >> >>>>> re-engages with the flick of another small lever after the clip
> >> >>>>> is inserted and then it is just amattter of squeexing the
> >> >>>>> trigger. Taught my nephew how to to exactly that at the age of
> >> >>>>> 14. Took him all of 5 minutes to become proficient at it.
> >> >>>>> Until I bought my S&W 4006 back in 97 I had never used a semi
> >> >>>>> auto
> > in
> >> >>>>> my life. Always used a revolver before.
> >> >>>>> But then leave to a liberal to make something as simple as
> >> >>>>> wiping y
> > our
> >> >>>>> ass out to be some complex high skill task.
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> >> >>>> # It has been many years since I last fired an M16, but the
> >> >>>> process
> > is
> >> >>>> # about the same. The bolt locks open when the last round is
> >> >>>> fired o
> > ut
> >> >>>> of
> >> >>>> # a clip. One button to drop the magazine out, slap another one
> >> >>>> in,
> > and
> >> >>>> # push another button to release the bolt, which chambers the
> >> >>>> next round
> >> >>>> # and cocks the weapon.
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> >> >>>> # It would seem that most of our liberal brethren on this forum
> >> >>>> have
> > no
> >> >>>> # idea how a weapon actually works.
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> >> >>>> Quite true. The libtards operate on emotion only.
> >> >>>> And IMHO, a handgun magazine is easier to swap than a rifle.
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> >> >>>> Also if a Sandy Hook type of incident is considered, the perp
> >> >>>> could have
> >> >>>> just blocked the door while taking a minute to swap magazines.
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> >> >>>Once again the question becomes, what do our elected leaders truly
> >> >>>thi
> > nk
> >> >>>they will accomplish by throwing up additional roadblocks in front
> >> >>>of citizens who wish to own weapons?
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> >> >>>A related question, how can our fellow citizens be so blind that
> >> >>>they cannot see that restricting the rights of law abiding
> >> >>>citizens does no
> > t
> >> >>>make them safer from criminals?
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> >> >> # One of the Sandy Hook parents tried to make that exact point to
> >> >> the # government. More gun laws only make things more complicated
> >> >> and # difficult for those of us who obey laws. All the laws in
> >> >> the worl
> > d
> >> >> # aren't going to keep criminals from obtaining and using illegal
> >> >> # weapons. It's what makes them criminals, duh.
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> >> >> And the people who will follow those insane laws are not the
> >> >> people wh
> > o
> >> >> are the problem.
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> >> > We don't have a gun law that does not have the fingerprint of an
> >> > NRA loophole.
> >> > They are designed to be ineffective.
> >> > The new proposed law is ineffective.
> >> > Congress should not waste time on it.
> >> > Obama should not sign it.
> >> > It's bullshit
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> >> So basically what you're telling me is that those opposed to guns
> >> can't craft reasonable legislation that fulfills their state
> >> objectives without producing objectionable violations of innocent
> >> people's rights.
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> > What objectionable violations? You'd still be able to own a gun.
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> Not necssarily the ones I want.
You don't need nukes, drones, flame throwers or lasers, or even
something with 30 rounds. That's just paranoid shit on your part.
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> > What other rights are you talking about that the Constitution gives?
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> The Constitution does not grant or give rights. It recognizes them.
Recognizing a right is worth about as much as your spit in a bucket -
nothing.
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