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"wy" wrote in message
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On 13 Apr, 13:06, "Wayne" wrote:
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> > "Sid9" wrote in messagenews:kkbv04$26q$1@dont-email.me...
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> > "wy" wrote in message
> >news:c756ce31-be4f-43ef-af3a-cdff6a03e6c3@x14g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> >> On 12 Apr, 12:21, David Hartung wrote:
> >>> On 04/12/2013 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:
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> >>> > "David Hartung" wrote in message
> >>> >news:W_ydnViZr5r-rfXMnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...
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> >>> > On 04/12/2013 10:46 AM, FirstPost wrote:
> >>> >> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:17:34 -0400, "Scout"
> >>> >> wrote:
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> >>> >>> "deep" wrote in message
> >>> >>>news:18gem8dakvucu3ohfuu4c2rvia5sb3ra1g@4ax.com...
> >>> >>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:27:15 -0500, FirstPost
> >>> >>>> wrote:
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> >>> >>>>>>> Simple math. One gun with six shots would kill 6 kids. One
> >>> >>>>>>> gun
> >>> >>>>>>> with
> >>> >>>>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids. Boy, you're stupid.
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> >>> >>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this
> >>> >>>>>> documentation
> >>> >>>>>> Sud
> >>> >>>>>> says you post.
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> >>> >>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it takes under
> >>> >>>>> 2
> >>> >>>>> seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and immediately
> >>> >>>>> begin
> >>> >>>>> firing again without even having to recock the weapon.
> >>> >>>>> Boy, wy really is stupid.
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> >>> >>>> Well, not exactly, so I guess it's you that's stupid. The slide
> >>> >>>> will
> >>> >>>> be locked back and you have to actuate the slide release lever so
> >>> >>>> effectively it's the same amount of movement. And it's during
> >>> >>>> reloads
> >>> >>>> when people can get away, take cover, or somebody tackles them.
> >>> >>>> Or
> >>> >>>> the shooter can drop his magazine even. Most people are super
> >>> >>>> fast
> >>> >>>> speed shooting heros like you. Matter of fact, most spree
> >>> >>>> shooters
> >>> >>>> are hardly trained at all.
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> >>> >>> And yet, you claim that it takes tons of training to be able to
> >>> >>> take
> >>> >>> out a
> >>> >>> spree shooter.
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> >>> >> I take my gun out and practice maybe once a year.
> >>> >> Ejecting a clip is a matter of pushing a button with your thumb on
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> side of the gun and the clip pops out. Slappinng a new clip in
> >>> >> takes
> >>> >> about as long regardless of experience. The slide on the gun
> >>> >> re-engages with the flick of another small lever after the clip is
> >>> >> inserted and then it is just amattter of squeexing the trigger.
> >>> >> Taught my nephew how to to exactly that at the age of 14.
> >>> >> Took him all of 5 minutes to become proficient at it.
> >>> >> Until I bought my S&W 4006 back in 97 I had never used a semi auto
> >>> >> in
> >>> >> my life. Always used a revolver before.
> >>> >> But then leave to a liberal to make something as simple as wiping
> >>> >> your
> >>> >> ass out to be some complex high skill task.
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> >>> > # It has been many years since I last fired an M16, but the process
> >>> > is
> >>> > # about the same. The bolt locks open when the last round is fired
> >>> > out
> >>> > of
> >>> > # a clip. One button to drop the magazine out, slap another one in,
> >>> > and
> >>> > # push another button to release the bolt, which chambers the next
> >>> > round
> >>> > # and cocks the weapon.
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> >>> > # It would seem that most of our liberal brethren on this forum have
> >>> > no
> >>> > # idea how a weapon actually works.
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> >>> > Quite true. The libtards operate on emotion only.
> >>> > And IMHO, a handgun magazine is easier to swap than a rifle.
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> >>> > Also if a Sandy Hook type of incident is considered, the perp could
> >>> > have
> >>> > just blocked the door while taking a minute to swap magazines.
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> >>> Once again the question becomes, what do our elected leaders truly
> >>> think
> >>> they will accomplish by throwing up additional roadblocks in front of
> >>> citizens who wish to own weapons?
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> >>> A related question, how can our fellow citizens be so blind that they
> >>> cannot see that restricting the rights of law abiding citizens does
> >>> not
> >>> make them safer from criminals?
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> >> The gun bill doesn't prevent you from owning guns. Stop with your
> >> right wingnut hysteria.
> > .
> > .
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> > # The gun bill, among other things, allows unchecked private sales.
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> > As it should. The feds should not be regulating private sales of any
> > inanimate objects.
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> > # A legitimate gun buyer may sell his newly purchased gun to a maniacal
> > killer
> > # with no government sanity check.
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> > Bullshit. The only legal way I can buy a gun is through a FFL.
> > If I buy it over the internet, it is shipped to the FFL, a background
> > check is performed, I make two trips (separated by 10 days)
> > to the FFL to fill out 20 or so pieces of paperwork.
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> > If I buy from an individual, both of us have to go to the FFL and
> > perform
> > the above process.
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> > If I buy from a store, I perform the above process at the store.
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> > Some states have more restrictive laws than that, some have less.
> > CT is one of the states that already had restrictive laws, and the new
> > ones won't do squat.
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> > The feds need to stay the hell out of this.
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> # If you sell your gun privately there is NO sanity check on the buyer.
> # Did you miss that by accident or intentionally?
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> I didn't miss that at all. You missed it.
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> "Private" gun sales are sales between individuals, and I did address that.
> BOTH parties must appear at a FFL at the same time, and go through the
> process.
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> I cannot give a gun to anyone, even a relative such as a son or grandson.
# There's nothing to stop a son or grandson or your wife or any member
# of the family or any friend from just taking it either if you just so
# happen to leave it available out in the open. No sale is required.
However, there are various state laws against what you suggest.
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