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   >>>>> On 12 Apr, 12:21, David Hartung wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 04/12/2013 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:   
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   >>>>>> > "David Hartung" wrote in message   
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   >>>>>> > On 04/12/2013 10:46 AM, FirstPost wrote:   
   >>>>>> >> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:17:34 -0400, "Scout"   
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   >>>>>> >>> "deep" wrote in message   
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   >>>>>> >>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:27:15 -0500, FirstPost   
   >>>>>> >>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>> >>>>>>> Simple math. One gun with six shots would kill 6 kids.   
   >>>>>> >>>>>>> One gun   
   >>>>>> >>>>>>> with   
   >>>>>> >>>>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids. Boy, you're stupid.   
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   >>>>>> >>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this   
   >>>>>> >>>>>> documentation   
   >>>>>> >>>>>> Sud   
   >>>>>> >>>>>> says you post.   
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   >>>>>> >>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it takes   
   >>>>>> >>>>> under 2   
   >>>>>> >>>>> seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and immediately   
   >>>>>> >>>>> begin   
   >>>>>> >>>>> firing again without even having to recock the weapon.   
   >>>>>> >>>>> Boy, wy really is stupid.   
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   >>>>>> >>>> Well, not exactly, so I guess it's you that's stupid. The   
   >>>>>> >>>> slide will   
   >>>>>> >>>> be locked back and you have to actuate the slide release   
   >>>>>> >>>> lever so effectively it's the same amount of movement. And   
   >>>>>> >>>> it's during reloads   
   >>>>>> >>>> when people can get away, take cover, or somebody tackles   
   >>>>>> >>>> them. Or   
   >>>>>> >>>> the shooter can drop his magazine even. Most people are   
   >>>>>> >>>> super fast   
   >>>>>> >>>> speed shooting heros like you. Matter of fact, most spree   
   >>>>>> >>>> shooters   
   >>>>>> >>>> are hardly trained at all.   
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   >>>>>> >>> And yet, you claim that it takes tons of training to be able   
   >>>>>> >>> to take   
   >>>>>> >>> out a   
   >>>>>> >>> spree shooter.   
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   >>>>>> >> I take my gun out and practice maybe once a year.   
   >>>>>> >> Ejecting a clip is a matter of pushing a button with your thumb   
   >>>>>> >> on the   
   >>>>>> >> side of the gun and the clip pops out. Slappinng a new clip in   
   >>>>>> >> takes   
   >>>>>> >> about as long regardless of experience. The slide on the gun   
   >>>>>> >> re-engages with the flick of another small lever after the clip   
   >>>>>> >> is inserted and then it is just amattter of squeexing the   
   >>>>>> >> trigger. Taught my nephew how to to exactly that at the age of   
   >>>>>> >> 14. Took him all of 5 minutes to become proficient at it.   
   >>>>>> >> Until I bought my S&W 4006 back in 97 I had never used a semi   
   >>>>>> >> auto in   
   >>>>>> >> my life. Always used a revolver before.   
   >>>>>> >> But then leave to a liberal to make something as simple as   
   >>>>>> >> wiping your   
   >>>>>> >> ass out to be some complex high skill task.   
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   >>>>>> > # It has been many years since I last fired an M16, but the   
   >>>>>> > process is   
   >>>>>> > # about the same. The bolt locks open when the last round is   
   >>>>>> > fired out of   
   >>>>>> > # a clip. One button to drop the magazine out, slap another one   
   >>>>>> > in, and   
   >>>>>> > # push another button to release the bolt, which chambers the   
   >>>>>> > next round   
   >>>>>> > # and cocks the weapon.   
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   >>>>>> > # It would seem that most of our liberal brethren on this forum   
   >>>>>> > have no   
   >>>>>> > # idea how a weapon actually works.   
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   >>>>>> > Quite true. The libtards operate on emotion only.   
   >>>>>> > And IMHO, a handgun magazine is easier to swap than a rifle.   
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   >>>>>> > Also if a Sandy Hook type of incident is considered, the perp   
   >>>>>> > could have   
   >>>>>> > just blocked the door while taking a minute to swap magazines.   
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   >>>>>> Once again the question becomes, what do our elected leaders truly   
   >>>>>> think   
   >>>>>> they will accomplish by throwing up additional roadblocks in front   
   >>>>>> of citizens who wish to own weapons?   
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   >>>>>> A related question, how can our fellow citizens be so blind that   
   >>>>>> they cannot see that restricting the rights of law abiding   
   >>>>>> citizens does not make them safer from criminals?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The gun bill doesn't prevent you from owning guns. Stop with your   
   >>>>> right wingnut hysteria.   
   >>>> .   
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   >>>> # The gun bill, among other things, allows unchecked private sales.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> As it should. The feds should not be regulating private sales of   
   >>>> any inanimate objects.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> # A legitimate gun buyer may sell his newly purchased gun to a   
   >>>> maniacal killer   
   >>>> # with no government sanity check.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Bullshit. The only legal way I can buy a gun is through a FFL.   
   >>>> If I buy it over the internet, it is shipped to the FFL, a   
   >>>> background check is performed, I make two trips (separated by 10   
   >>>> days) to the FFL to fill out 20 or so pieces of paperwork.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If I buy from an individual, both of us have to go to the FFL and   
   >>>> perform the above process.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If I buy from a store, I perform the above process at the store.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Some states have more restrictive laws than that, some have less.   
   >>>> CT is one of the states that already had restrictive laws, and the   
   >>>> new ones won't do squat.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The feds need to stay the hell out of this.   
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   >>>   
   >>> # If you sell your gun privately there is NO sanity check on the   
   >>> buyer. # Did you miss that by accident or intentionally?   
   >>>   
   >>> I didn't miss that at all. You missed it.   
   >>>   
   >>> "Private" gun sales are sales between individuals, and I did address   
   >>> that. BOTH parties must appear at a FFL at the same time, and go   
      
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