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   Message 52,798 of 54,497   
   wy to All   
   Re: Time for Mississippi to elect a new    
   13 Apr 13 13:33:51   
   
   deb08130   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa.constitution.gun-rights,   
   talk.politics.guns   
   From: wy_@myself.com   
      
   On 13 Apr, 16:21, RD Sandman    
   wrote:   
   > wy  wrote innews:5096bf7d-43bf-4296-971c-15fc   
   6e7f3bc@o9g2000vbk.googlegroups.com:   
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   > > On 13 Apr, 15:17, RD Sandman    
   > > wrote:   
   > >> wy  wrote   
   > >> innews:ba0dbed9-8e9a-4473-94ae-53e0af35844c@gb   
   > > 2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:   
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   > >> > On 13 Apr, 13:28, RD Sandman    
   > >> > wrote:   
   > >> >> wy  wrote   
   > >> >> innews:fcfbc689-5545-4ca4-9b33-4f2974c99de7@r7   
   > >> > g2000vbw.googlegroups.com:   
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   > >> >> > On 12 Apr, 22:51, "Scout"   
   > >> >> >  wrote:   
   > >> >> >> "Sid9"  wrote in message   
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   > >> >> >>news:kkaecf$qs7$1@dont-email.me...   
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   > >> >> >> > "Wayne"  wrote in message   
   > >> >> >> >news:kka8hq$t31$1@dont-email.me...   
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   > >> >> >> >> "FirstPost" wrote in message   
   > >> >> >> >>news:ir1hm85nj70s2gg4asbci8nkfis6c6cgpv@4ax.com...   
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   > >> >> >> >> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 11:21:44 -0500, David Hartung   
   > >> >> >> >>  wrote:   
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   > >> >> >> >>>On 04/12/2013 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:   
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   > >> >> >> >>>> "David Hartung" wrote in message   
   > >> >> >> >>>>news:W_ydnViZr5r-rfXMnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
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   > >> >> >> >>>> On 04/12/2013 10:46 AM, FirstPost wrote:   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:17:34 -0400, "Scout"   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>  wrote:   
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   > >> >> >> >>>>>> "deep" wrote in message   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>news:18gem8dakvucu3ohfuu4c2rvia5sb3ra1g@4ax.com...   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:27:15 -0500, FirstPost   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Simple math. One gun with six shots would kill 6   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> kids. O   
   > >> >> > ne gun   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> with   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids. Boy, you're stupid.   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> documentat   
   > >> >> > ion   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Sud   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> says you post.   
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   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>> takes under   
   > >> >> > �2   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>> seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>> immediately beg   
   > >> >> > in   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>> firing again without even having to recock the weapon.   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Boy, wy really is stupid.   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>> Well, not exactly, so I guess it's you that's stupid.   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>> The slid   
   > >> >> > e   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>> will   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>> be locked back and you have to actuate the slide   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>> release lever so effectively it's the same amount of   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>> movement. And it's during reloads   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>> when people can get away, take cover, or somebody   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>> tackles them.   
   > >> >> > Or   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>> the shooter can drop his magazine even. Most people are   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>> super   
   > >> >> > fast   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>> speed shooting heros like you. Matter of fact, most   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>> spree shoo   
   > >> >> > ters   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>>> are hardly trained at all.   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>> And yet, you claim that it takes tons of training to be   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>> able to ta   
   > >> >> > ke   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>> out a   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>> spree shooter.   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> I take my gun out and practice maybe once a year.   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> Ejecting a clip is a matter of pushing a button with your   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> thumb on   
   > >> >> > the   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> side of the gun and the clip pops out. Slappinng a new   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> clip in t   
   > >> >> > akes   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> about as long regardless of experience. The slide on the   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> gun re-engages with the flick of another small lever   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> after the clip is inserted and then it is just amattter   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> of squeexing the trigger. Taught my nephew how to to   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> exactly that at the age of 14. Took him all of 5 minutes   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> to become proficient at it. Until I bought my S&W 4006   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> back in 97 I had never used a semi auto   
   > >> >> > in   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> my life. Always used a revolver before.   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> But then leave to a liberal to make something as simple   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> as wiping y   
   > >> >> > our   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> ass out to be some complex high skill task.   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>>> # It has been many years since I last fired an M16, but   
   > >> >> >> >>>> the process   
   > >> >> > is   
   > >> >> >> >>>> # about the same. The bolt locks open when the last round   
   > >> >> >> >>>> is fired o   
   > >> >> > ut   
   > >> >> >> >>>> of   
   > >> >> >> >>>> # a clip. One button to drop the magazine out, slap   
   > >> >> >> >>>> another one in,   
   > >> >> > and   
   > >> >> >> >>>> # push another button to release the bolt, which chambers   
   > >> >> >> >>>> the next round   
   > >> >> >> >>>> # and cocks the weapon.   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>>> # It would seem that most of our liberal brethren on this   
   > >> >> >> >>>> forum have   
   > >> >> > �no   
   > >> >> >> >>>> # idea how a weapon actually works.   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>>> Quite true. The libtards operate on emotion only.   
   > >> >> >> >>>> And IMHO, a handgun magazine is easier to swap than a   
   > >> >> >> >>>> rifle.   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>>> Also if a Sandy Hook type of incident is considered, the   
   > >> >> >> >>>> perp could have   
   > >> >> >> >>>> just blocked the door while taking a minute to swap   
   > >> >> >> >>>> magazines.   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>>Once again the question becomes, what do our elected leaders   
   > >> >> >> >>>truly thi   
   > >> >> > nk   
   > >> >> >> >>>they will accomplish by throwing up additional roadblocks in   
   > >> >> >> >>>front of citizens who wish to own weapons?   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>>A related question, how can our fellow citizens be so blind   
   > >> >> >> >>>that they cannot see that restricting the rights of law   
   > >> >> >> >>>abiding citizens does no   
   > >> >> > t   
   > >> >> >> >>>make them safer from criminals?   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >> # One of the Sandy Hook parents tried to make that exact   
   > >> >> >> >> point to the # government. More gun laws only make things   
   > >> >> >> >> more complicated and # difficult for those of us who obey   
   > >> >> >> >> laws. All the laws in the worl   
   > >> >> > d   
   > >> >> >> >> # aren't going to keep criminals from obtaining and using   
      
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