XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa.constitution.gun-rights,   
   talk.politics.guns   
   From: Dev@null.net   
      
   On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:15:12 -0500, RD Sandman   
    wrote:   
      
   >GOP_Decline_and_Fall  wrote in   
   >news:j6njm89lfobl1omtv79g4tpl183dbnikcu@4ax.com:   
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   >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 16:57:57 -0500, David Hartung    
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   >>>On 04/12/2013 03:04 AM, GOP_Decline_and_Fall wrote:   
   >>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 18:40:26 -0400, "Sid9"    
   >>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>> "FirstPost"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:8vdem8914ekqmi4teocd0fdn7n1lpkfoqq@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:09:51 -0500, David Hartung   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>> On 04/11/2013 05:04 PM, wy wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 11 Apr, 17:56, David Hartung  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 04/11/2013 03:27 PM, Sid9 wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>> "David Hartung"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>> news:4bednRQ-eqZBnvrMnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 04/11/2013 01:24 PM, Sid9 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> "David Hartung"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> news:OPWdnTWvAtVvYPvMnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/11/2013 01:13 PM, Sid9 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "David Hartung"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:QuedndquSM7ZZPvMnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senator Roger Wicker(R MS) voted in favor of cloture   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today, which will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move the unconstitutional and unconscionable gun bill   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to floor   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debate. Should this bill become law, more innocent people   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will die   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ability of law abiding citizens to defend themselves   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further curtailed.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not to worry.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The proposed legislation is crap.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's loaded with NRA loopholes and escape clauses.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing effective will come out of this congress   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> This from the man who would prefer to see the American   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Citizen completely   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> disarmed.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Not true.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Or correctly, you lie.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> I have never advocated the total removal of arms from   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> America. It can't be done.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> No laws or regulations can do that.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> That's an NRA boogie man.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> There are an estimated 300,000,000 firearms in the USA.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> There are 12 million undocumented aliens in the USA.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> We can't find either.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> What we need is some non-IRA sanity in firearm regulation.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> .....but 20 dead children and six dead adults are not enough   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> yet to treat   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> this issue rationally   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You speak of rationality, yet you have yet to advance a   
   >>>>>>>>>>> single rational explanation of how the laws currently under   
   >>>>>>>>>>> consideration will prevent another Sandy Hook.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> 1. much smaller magazines would have saved lives in allowing   
   >>>>>>>>>> some of the   
   >>>>>>>>>> victims to escape.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Really? You can support this with objective documentation?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Simple math.  One gun with six shots would kill 6 kids.  One gun   
   >>>>>>>> with 30 shots would kill 30 kids.  Boy, you're stupid.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this   
   >>>>>>> documentation Sud says you post.   
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   >>>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it takes under 2   
   >>>>>> seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and immediately begin   
   >>>>>> firing again without even having to recock the weapon.   
   >>>>>> Boy, wy really is stupid.   
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   >>>>> Maybe true in practice firings.   
   >>>>> More likely not true in the emotional high of killing children and   
   >>>>> their teachers.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> There's no hope with a large magazine.   
   >>>>> There' a slight chance to escape when reloading is required   
   >>>>> Some chance is better than no chance for the victims   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Well said.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In the time it took Adam Lanza to reload, 11 children escaped.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/02/1198740/-In-the-time-it-took   
   >>>> -Adam-Lanza-to-reload-11-children-escaped   
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   >>>>   "We have learned that in the time it took him to reload in one of   
   >>>>   the   
   >>>> classrooms, 11 children were able to escape.   
   >>>   
   >>> From whom did Mr. Hockley learn this? From where I sit, this claim   
   >>> does   
   >>>not pass the smell test.   
   >>   
   >> The children who escaped of course.   
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   >   
   >Those children know more about guns and exchanging magazines than our   
   >congress critters who are trying to pass the laws?   
      
   Or block their passage, as the case may be.   
      
   Sadly the children who escaped Miss Soto's classroom may indeed and at   
   first hand.   
      
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