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   "wy"  wrote in message   
   news:b168afae-18a8-4ea9-9b74-e492c526af28@w1g2000vbw.googlegroups.com...   
   > On 14 Apr, 12:33, RD Sandman    
   > wrote:   
   >> wy  wrote   
   >> innews:ad458066-16bb-4921-97e9-bd8ca06c42b4@f18g2000vbs.googlegroups.com:   
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   >> > On 14 Apr, 01:58, "Scout"    
   >> > wrote:   
   >> >> "wy"  wrote in message   
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   >> >>news:927674ce-ac3d-4fbe-899d-3718991c46b0@e13g2000vbn.googlegroups.com   
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   >> >> > On 13 Apr, 20:40, Steve  wrote:   
   >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:57:24 -0700 (PDT), wy    
   >> >> >> wrote:   
   >> >> >> >On 13 Apr, 18:50, "Scout"   
   >> >> >> > wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> "wy"  wrote in message   
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   >> >> >> >>news:5d978267-11aa-41d3-ab47-8b86c12119b4@c7g2000vbe.googlegroups   
   >> >> >> >>.co   
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   >> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 18:17, David Hartung  wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> >> On 04/13/2013 04:36 PM, wy wrote:   
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   >> >> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 17:05, RD Sandman   
   >> >> >> >> >> > > > t>   
   >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:   
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   >> >> >> >> >> >>> In other words, you don't need a hi cap magazine for   
   >> >> >> >> >> >>> anythin   
   >> > g.   
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   >> >> >> >> >> >> So? What does need have to do with it? Do you need a V-   
   >> > 8 or a   
   >> >> >> >> >> >> V-6 in   
   >> >> >> >> >> >> your car. Do you even need a 4?   
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   >> >> >> >> >> > When it comes to killing, need has everything to do with   
   >> >> >> >> >> > it?   
   >> > How   
   >> >> >> >> >> > many   
   >> >> >> >> >> > times and how quickly do you *need* to kill?   
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   >> >> >> >> >> Look at the wording of the Second Amendment, and then go   
   >> >> >> >> >> back a learn   
   >> >> >> >> >> what the founders had to say about it. The purpose of an   
   >> >> >> >> >> armed citizenry   
   >> >> >> >> >> is to protect the country from invaders, and if necessary,   
   >> >> >> >> >> from   
   >> > the   
   >> >> >> >> >> government itself. That being the purpose, does it not make   
   >> >> >> >> >> sens   
   >> > e   
   >> >> >> >> >> that   
   >> >> >> >> >> we arm ourselves with the expectation of facing soldiers who   
   >> >> >> >> >> wil   
   >> > l   
   >> >> >> >> >> be   
   >> >> >> >> >> armed with automatic weapons and other nasty little   
   >> >> >> >> >> surprises? I   
   >> > N   
   >> >> >> >> >> such a   
   >> >> >> >> >> scenario, limiting the size of clips, could mean more dead   
   >> >> >> >> >> citizens.   
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   >> >> >> >> > America had a tiny army in the late 1700s, too tiny to cover   
   >> >> >> >> > the territory of the time. It wasn't even a full-fledged   
   >> >> >> >> > nation ye   
   >> > t in   
   >> >> >> >> > the ordinary sense. The second amendment gave the right to   
   >> >> >> >> > bea   
   >> > r   
   >> >> >> >> > arms   
   >> >> >> >> > for a militia to do the job of what the army couldn't do at   
   >> >> >> >> > the time.   
   >> >> >> >> > The militias were a deputized form of the army. That's what   
   >> >> >> >> > th   
   >> > e   
   >> >> >> >> > second amendment is all about. It wasn't about giving every   
   >> >> >> >> > Jo   
   >> > e   
   >> >> >> >> > Blow   
   >> >> >> >> > his gun just for the hell of it.   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> No, actually protecting the right of every Joe Blow to have his   
   >> >> >> >> gun   
   >> > s   
   >> >> >> >> is   
   >> >> >> >> exactly the purpose of the 2nd.   
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   >> >> >> >> So that when the militia was needed Joe Blow could show up   
   >> >> >> >> armed an   
   >> > d   
   >> >> >> >> able to   
   >> >> >> >> perform his function in the militia.   
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   >> >> >> >Right. Within the function of a militia, not outside of it. The   
   >> >> >> >second amendment stipulates "militia," not one's backyard.   
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   >> >> >> There is no such stipulation in the Second Amendment. There is   
   >> >> >> nothing in the 2A that suggests that the RKBA is limited to the   
   >> >> >> militia, MR i...@email.com   
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   >> >> > "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a   
   >> >> > free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall   
   >> >> > not be infringed."   
   >>   
   >> >> > Is one's backyard included in that?   
   >>   
   >> >> Absolutely,.   
   >>   
   >> > Not mentioned in the Constitution.  Next.   
   >>   
   >> Neither is your free speech in a newsgroup on the internet.  Does that   
   >> mean you don't have it?   
   >   
   > If you actually read, and are able to properly digest, the First   
   > amendment, it's not so much about giving everyone the right of free   
   > speech as it is about Congress making no law abridging the freedom of   
   > speech.   
   >   
   > "Congress shall make no law" ...  respecting an establishment of   
   > religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or ... "abridging   
   > the freedom of speech," or of the press; or the right of the people   
   > peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of   
   > grievances.   
      
   If you actually read, and are able to properly digest, the Second amendment,   
   it's not so much about giving everyone the right to keep and bear arms as it   
   is about Congress making no law abridging the freedom to keep and bear arms.   
      
   "...shall not be infringed" ...  respecting the right to keep and bear arms.   
      
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