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From: wy_@myself.com
On 14 Apr, 21:01, "Scout"
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> > On 14 Apr, 01:58, "Scout"
> > wrote:
> >> "wy" wrote in message
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> >>news:927674ce-ac3d-4fbe-899d-3718991c46b0@e13g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
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> >> > On 13 Apr, 20:40, Steve wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:57:24 -0700 (PDT), wy wrote:
> >> >> >On 13 Apr, 18:50, "Scout"
> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >> "wy" wrote in message
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> >> >> >>news:5d978267-11aa-41d3-ab47-8b86c12119b4@c7g2000vbe.g
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> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 18:17, David Hartung wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On 04/13/2013 04:36 PM, wy wrote:
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> >> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 17:05, RD Sandman
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> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
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> >> >> >> >> >>> In other words, you don't need a hi cap magazine for
> >> >> >> >> >>> anything.
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> >> >> >> >> >> So? What does need have to do with it? Do you need a V-8 or
> >> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> >> V-6 in
> >> >> >> >> >> your car. Do you even need a 4?
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> >> >> >> >> > When it comes to killing, need has everything to do with it?
> >> >> >> >> > How
> >> >> >> >> > many
> >> >> >> >> > times and how quickly do you *need* to kill?
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> >> >> >> >> Look at the wording of the Second Amendment, and then go back a
> >> >> >> >> learn
> >> >> >> >> what the founders had to say about it. The purpose of an armed
> >> >> >> >> citizenry
> >> >> >> >> is to protect the country from invaders, and if necessary, from
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> government itself. That being the purpose, does it not make
> >> >> >> >> sense
> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> we arm ourselves with the expectation of facing soldiers who
> >> >> >> >> will
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> >> >> >> >> armed with automatic weapons and other nasty little surprises?
> >> >> >> >> IN
> >> >> >> >> such a
> >> >> >> >> scenario, limiting the size of clips, could mean more dead
> >> >> >> >> citizens.
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> >> >> >> > America had a tiny army in the late 1700s, too tiny to cover the
> >> >> >> > territory of the time. It wasn't even a full-fledged nation yet
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > the ordinary sense. The second amendment gave the right to bear
> >> >> >> > arms
> >> >> >> > for a militia to do the job of what the army couldn't do at the
> >> >> >> > time.
> >> >> >> > The militias were a deputized form of the army. That's what the
> >> >> >> > second amendment is all about. It wasn't about giving every Joe
> >> >> >> > Blow
> >> >> >> > his gun just for the hell of it.
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> >> >> >> No, actually protecting the right of every Joe Blow to have his
> >> >> >> guns
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> exactly the purpose of the 2nd.
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> >> >> >> So that when the militia was needed Joe Blow could show up armed
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> able to
> >> >> >> perform his function in the militia.
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> >> >> >Right. Within the function of a militia, not outside of it. The
> >> >> >second amendment stipulates "militia," not one's backyard.
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> >> >> There is no such stipulation in the Second Amendment. There is
> >> >> nothing in the 2A that suggests that the RKBA is limited to the
> >> >> militia, MR i...@email.com
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> >> > "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
> >> > State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
> >> > infringed."
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> >> > Is one's backyard included in that?
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> >> Absolutely,.
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> > Not mentioned in the Constitution. Next.
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> "...shall not be infringed."
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> What part of that do you have trouble with?
"Militia" - what part of that do you have trouble with? Oh, I guess
it's the part that the word is actually in there in the same sentence.
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> >> > I thought not.
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> >> But then your thinking is flawed.
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> > You're not disproving anything. Next.
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> I'm disproving your claims about the 2nd.
You're doing a pretty piss-poor job of it.
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