XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa.constitution.gun-rights,   
   talk.politics.guns   
   From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net   
      
   "Gray Guest"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>> wy  wrote in   
   >>>>> news:c756ce31-be4f-43ef-af3a-cdff6a03e6c3   
   >>>>> @x14g2000vba.googlegroups.com:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 12 Apr, 12:21, David Hartung  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 04/12/2013 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:   
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   >>>>>>> > "David Hartung"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> >news:W_ydnViZr5r-rfXMnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
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   >>>>>>> > On 04/12/2013 10:46 AM, FirstPost wrote:   
   >>>>>>> >> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:17:34 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>> >>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>> >>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> >>>news:18gem8dakvucu3ohfuu4c2rvia5sb3ra1g@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>> >>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:27:15 -0500, FirstPost   
   >>>>>>> >>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simple math.  One gun with six shots would kill 6 kids.   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>>  One   
   >>>>>> gun   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>> with   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids.  Boy, you're stupid.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this   
   >>>>> documentation   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>> Sud   
   >>>>>>> >>>>>> says you post.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it takes   
   >>>>>>> >>>>> under 2 seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and   
   >>>>>>> >>>>> immediately begin firing again without even having to recock   
   >>>>>>> >>>>> the weapon. Boy, wy really is stupid.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>>> Well, not exactly, so I guess it's you that's stupid.  The   
   >>>>>>> >>>> slide w   
   >>>>>> ill   
   >>>>>>> >>>> be locked back and you have to actuate the slide release   
   >>>>>>> >>>> lever so effectively it's the same amount of movement.  And   
   >>>>>>> >>>> it's during rel   
   >>>>>> oads   
   >>>>>>> >>>> when people can get away, take cover, or somebody tackles   
   >>>>>>> >>>> them.  O   
   >>>>>> r   
   >>>>>>> >>>> the shooter can drop his magazine even.  Most people are   
   >>>>>>> >>>> super fas   
   >>>>>> t   
   >>>>>>> >>>> speed shooting heros like you.  Matter of fact, most spree   
   >>>>>>> >>>> shooter   
   >>>>>> s   
   >>>>>>> >>>> are hardly trained at all.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >>> And yet, you claim that it takes tons of training to be able   
   >>>>>>> >>> to take out a   
   >>>>>>> >>> spree shooter.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >> I take my gun out and practice maybe once a year.   
   >>>>>>> >> Ejecting a clip is a matter of pushing a button with your thumb   
   >>>>>>> >> on   
   >>>>> the   
   >>>>>>> >> side of the gun and the clip pops out.  Slappinng a new clip in   
   >>>>>>> >> take   
   >>>>>> s   
   >>>>>>> >> about as long regardless of experience.  The slide on the gun   
   >>>>>>> >> re-engages with the flick of another small lever after the clip   
   >>>>>>> >> is inserted and then it is just amattter of squeexing the   
   >>>>>>> >> trigger. Taught my nephew how to to exactly that at the age of   
   >>>>>>> >> 14. Took him all of 5 minutes to become proficient at it.   
   >>>>>>> >> Until I bought my S&W 4006 back in 97 I had never used a semi   
   >>>>>>> >> auto in my life.  Always used a revolver before.   
   >>>>>>> >> But then leave to a liberal to make something as simple as   
   >>>>>>> >> wiping   
   >>>>> your   
   >>>>>>> >> ass out to be some complex high skill task.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> > # It has been many years since I last fired an M16, but the   
   >>>>>>> > process is # about the same. The bolt locks open when the last   
   >>>>>>> > round is fired out   
   >>>>>> of   
   >>>>>>> > # a clip. One button to drop the magazine out, slap another one   
   >>>>>>> > in,   
   >>>>> and   
   >>>>>>> > # push another button to release the bolt, which chambers the   
   >>>>>>> > next   
   >>>>> roun   
   >>>>>> d   
   >>>>>>> > # and cocks the weapon.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> > # It would seem that most of our liberal brethren on this forum   
   >>>>>>> > have   
   >>>>> no   
   >>>>>>> > # idea how a weapon actually works.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> > Quite true.  The libtards operate on emotion only.   
   >>>>>>> > And IMHO, a handgun magazine is easier to swap than a rifle.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> > Also if a Sandy Hook type of incident is considered, the perp   
   >>>>>>> > could   
   >>>>> hav   
   >>>>>> e   
   >>>>>>> > just blocked the door while taking a minute to swap magazines.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Once again the question becomes, what do our elected leaders truly   
   >>>>>>> think they will accomplish by throwing up additional roadblocks in   
   >>>>>>> front of citizens who wish to own weapons?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> A related question, how can our fellow citizens be so blind that   
   >>>>>>> they cannot see that restricting the rights of law abiding   
   >>>>>>> citizens does not make them safer from criminals?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The gun bill doesn't prevent you from owning guns.  Stop with your   
   >>>>>> right wingnut hysteria.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> 1) It does not do what it purports to do.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> 2) A universal backgrond checks need universal registration to even   
   >>>>> have a shot at working. Universal backgrond checks are just another   
   >>>>> slip down the slope.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Universal background checks are not in the bill.  The change is that   
   >>>> all sales for commercial purposes will have background checks.   
   >>>> Excluded are sales or transfers between relatives, friends, etc.. on   
   >>>> onesy, twosy guns.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Speaking of hysterical have you heard the left wing mouth breathers?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
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   >>>   
   >>> Commercial purposes? That infers an FFL is already involved.   
   >>   
   >> Or that the person is at a gun show selling multiple guns or selling guns   
   >> for profit.  Not onesy-twosy.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   > Would that include someone selling off thier collection? Because someone   
   > selling guns for profit ie buying and selling, would sorta have to be an   
   > FFL.   
      
   No, because it's not being done for a commercial purpose. Doing so would   
   imply they are acting as a dealer and we all know what the law says is   
   required of someone acting as a dealer.   
      
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