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   On 14 Apr, 22:48, "Scout"    
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   > > On 14 Apr, 21:01, "Scout"    
   > > wrote:   
   > >> "wy"  wrote in message   
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   > >>news:ad458066-16bb-4921-97e9-bd8ca06c42b4@f18g2000vbs.googlegroups.com...   
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   > >> > On 14 Apr, 01:58, "Scout"    
   > >> > wrote:   
   > >> >> "wy"  wrote in message   
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   > >> >>news:927674ce-ac3d-4fbe-899d-3718991c46b0@e13g2000vbn.goo   
   legroups.com...   
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   > >> >> > On 13 Apr, 20:40, Steve  wrote:   
   > >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:57:24 -0700 (PDT), wy    
   > >> >> >> wrote:   
   > >> >> >> >On 13 Apr, 18:50, "Scout"   
   > >> >> >> >   
   > >> >> >> >wrote:   
   > >> >> >> >> "wy"  wrote in message   
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   > >> >> >> >>news:5d978267-11aa-41d3-ab47-8b86c12119b4@c7g2000vb   
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   > >> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 18:17, David Hartung  wrote:   
   > >> >> >> >> >> On 04/13/2013 04:36 PM, wy wrote:   
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   > >> >> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 17:05, RD Sandman   
   > >> >> >> >> >> >    
   > >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:   
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   > >> >> >> >> >> >>> In other words, you don't need a hi cap magazine for   
   > >> >> >> >> >> >>> anything.   
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   > >> >> >> >> >> >> So?  What does need have to do with it?  Do you need a V-8   
   > >> >> >> >> >> >> or   
   > >> >> >> >> >> >> a   
   > >> >> >> >> >> >> V-6 in   
   > >> >> >> >> >> >> your car.  Do you even need a 4?   
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   > >> >> >> >> >> > When it comes to killing, need has everything to do with   
   > >> >> >> >> >> > it?   
   > >> >> >> >> >> > How   
   > >> >> >> >> >> > many   
   > >> >> >> >> >> > times and how quickly do you *need* to kill?   
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   > >> >> >> >> >> Look at the wording of the Second Amendment, and then go back   
   > >> >> >> >> >> a   
   > >> >> >> >> >> learn   
   > >> >> >> >> >> what the founders had to say about it. The purpose of an   
   > >> >> >> >> >> armed   
   > >> >> >> >> >> citizenry   
   > >> >> >> >> >> is to protect the country from invaders, and if necessary,   
   > >> >> >> >> >> from   
   > >> >> >> >> >> the   
   > >> >> >> >> >> government itself. That being the purpose, does it not make   
   > >> >> >> >> >> sense   
   > >> >> >> >> >> that   
   > >> >> >> >> >> we arm ourselves with the expectation of facing soldiers who   
   > >> >> >> >> >> will   
   > >> >> >> >> >> be   
   > >> >> >> >> >> armed with automatic weapons and other nasty little   
   > >> >> >> >> >> surprises?   
   > >> >> >> >> >> IN   
   > >> >> >> >> >> such a   
   > >> >> >> >> >> scenario, limiting the size of clips, could mean more dead   
   > >> >> >> >> >> citizens.   
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   > >> >> >> >> > America had a tiny army in the late 1700s, too tiny to cover   
   > >> >> >> >> > the   
   > >> >> >> >> > territory of the time.  It wasn't even a full-fledged nation   
   > >> >> >> >> > yet   
   > >> >> >> >> > in   
   > >> >> >> >> > the ordinary sense.  The second amendment gave the right to   
   > >> >> >> >> > bear   
   > >> >> >> >> > arms   
   > >> >> >> >> > for a militia to do the job of what the army couldn't do at   
   > >> >> >> >> > the   
   > >> >> >> >> > time.   
   > >> >> >> >> > The militias were a deputized form of the army.  That's what   
   > >> >> >> >> > the   
   > >> >> >> >> > second amendment is all about.  It wasn't about giving every   
   > >> >> >> >> > Joe   
   > >> >> >> >> > Blow   
   > >> >> >> >> > his gun just for the hell of it.   
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   > >> >> >> >> No, actually protecting the right of every Joe Blow to have his   
   > >> >> >> >> guns   
   > >> >> >> >> is   
   > >> >> >> >> exactly the purpose of the 2nd.   
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   > >> >> >> >> So that when the militia was needed Joe Blow could show up armed   
   > >> >> >> >> and   
   > >> >> >> >> able to   
   > >> >> >> >> perform his function in the militia.   
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   > >> >> >> >Right.  Within the function of a militia, not outside of it.  The   
   > >> >> >> >second amendment stipulates "militia," not one's backyard.   
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   > >> >> >> There is no such stipulation in the Second Amendment.  There is   
   > >> >> >> nothing in the 2A that suggests that the RKBA is limited to the   
   > >> >> >> militia, MR i...@email.com   
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   > >> >> > "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free   
   > >> >> > State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be   
   > >> >> > infringed."   
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   > >> >> > Is one's backyard included in that?   
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   > >> >> Absolutely,.   
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   > >> > Not mentioned in the Constitution.  Next.   
   >   
   > >> "...shall not be infringed."   
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   > >> What part of that do you have trouble with?   
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   > > "Militia"   
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   > Sorry, but I don't see that word in that portion of the 2nd.   
      
   It's in the same 2nd.  I know you go blind on the on the 2nd word of   
   the 2nd, somehow thinking that one 2nd cancels out the other, but   
   that's your problem, not mine.   
      
      
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   > >> >> >  I thought not.   
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   > >> >> But then your thinking is flawed.   
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   > >> > You're not disproving anything.  Next.   
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   > >> I'm disproving your claims about the 2nd.   
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   > > You're doing a pretty piss-poor job of it.   
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   > Na, you're just a piss poor student.   
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   > I note you've refused to address the analysis of the 2nd's grammatical   
   > construction that shows you're full of crap....but I didn't really expect   
   > you to.   
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   > It just confirmed what I already know. You don't care about the facts.   
      
   You don't know what a subordinate clause is.   
      
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