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From: wy_@myself.com
On 14 Apr, 22:52, "Scout"
wrote:
> "wy" wrote in message
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> news:c196c493-c4ac-429d-8432-6353b7e44439@16g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
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> > On 14 Apr, 21:05, "Scout"
> > wrote:
> >> "RD Sandman" wrote in message
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> >>news:XnsA1A285CFB20Ehopewell@216.196.121.131...
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> >> > wy wrote in
> >> >news:b168afae-18a8-4ea9-9b74-e492c526af28@w1g2000vbw.googlegroups.com:
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> >> >> On 14 Apr, 12:33, RD Sandman
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> wy wrote
> >> >>> innews:ad458066-16bb-4921-97e9-bd8ca06c42b4@f1
> >> >> 8g2000vbs.googlegroups.com:
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> >> >>> > On 14 Apr, 01:58, "Scout"
> >> >>> > wrote:
> >> >>> >> "wy" wrote in message
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> >> >>> >>news:927674ce-ac3d-4fbe-899d-3718991c46b0@e13g2000vbn.googlegroups.c
> >> >>> >>om
> >> >>> >> ...
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> >> >>> >> > On 13 Apr, 20:40, Steve wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:57:24 -0700 (PDT), wy
> >> >>> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> >On 13 Apr, 18:50, "Scout"
> >> >>> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> >> "wy" wrote in message
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> >> >>> >> >> >>news:5d978267-11aa-41d3-ab47-8b86c12119b4@c7g2000vbe.googlegro
> >> >>> >> >> >>ups .co
> >> >>> > m...
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> >> >>> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 18:17, David Hartung wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> On 04/13/2013 04:36 PM, wy wrote:
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> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 17:05, RD Sandman
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> > t>
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
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> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> In other words, you don't need a hi cap magazine for
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> anythin
> >> >>> > g.
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> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> So? What does need have to do with it? Do you need a
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> V-
> >> >>> > 8 or a
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> V-6 in
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> your car. Do you even need a 4?
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> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > When it comes to killing, need has everything to do
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > with it?
> >> >>> > How
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > many
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > times and how quickly do you *need* to kill?
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> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Look at the wording of the Second Amendment, and then go
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> back a learn
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> what the founders had to say about it. The purpose of an
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> armed citizenry
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> is to protect the country from invaders, and if
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> necessary, from
> >> >>> > the
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> government itself. That being the purpose, does it not
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> make sens
> >> >>> > e
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> we arm ourselves with the expectation of facing soldiers
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> who wil
> >> >>> > l
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> armed with automatic weapons and other nasty little
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> surprises? I
> >> >>> > N
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> such a
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> scenario, limiting the size of clips, could mean more
> >> >>> >> >> >> >> dead citizens.
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> >> >>> >> >> >> > America had a tiny army in the late 1700s, too tiny to
> >> >>> >> >> >> > cover the territory of the time. It wasn't even a
> >> >>> >> >> >> > full-fledged nation ye
> >> >>> > t in
> >> >>> >> >> >> > the ordinary sense. The second amendment gave the right to
> >> >>> >> >> >> > bea
> >> >>> > r
> >> >>> >> >> >> > arms
> >> >>> >> >> >> > for a militia to do the job of what the army couldn't do
> >> >>> >> >> >> > at the time.
> >> >>> >> >> >> > The militias were a deputized form of the army. That's
> >> >>> >> >> >> > what th
> >> >>> > e
> >> >>> >> >> >> > second amendment is all about. It wasn't about giving
> >> >>> >> >> >> > every Jo
> >> >>> > e
> >> >>> >> >> >> > Blow
> >> >>> >> >> >> > his gun just for the hell of it.
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> >> >>> >> >> >> No, actually protecting the right of every Joe Blow to have
> >> >>> >> >> >> his gun
> >> >>> > s
> >> >>> >> >> >> is
> >> >>> >> >> >> exactly the purpose of the 2nd.
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> >> >>> >> >> >> So that when the militia was needed Joe Blow could show up
> >> >>> >> >> >> armed an
> >> >>> > d
> >> >>> >> >> >> able to
> >> >>> >> >> >> perform his function in the militia.
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> >> >>> >> >> >Right. Within the function of a militia, not outside of it.
> >> >>> >> >> >The second amendment stipulates "militia," not one's backyard.
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> >> >>> >> >> There is no such stipulation in the Second Amendment. There is
> >> >>> >> >> nothing in the 2A that suggests that the RKBA is limited to the
> >> >>> >> >> militia, MR i...@email.com
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> >> >>> >> > "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a
> >> >>> >> > free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall
> >> >>> >> > not be infringed."
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> >> >>> >> > Is one's backyard included in that?
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> >> >>> >> Absolutely,.
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> >> >>> > Not mentioned in the Constitution. Next.
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> >> >>> Neither is your free speech in a newsgroup on the internet. Does
> >> >>> that mean you don't have it?
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> >> >> If you actually read, and are able to properly digest, the First
> >> >> amendment, it's not so much about giving everyone the right of free
> >> >> speech as it is about Congress making no law abridging the freedom of
> >> >> speech.
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> >> >> "Congress shall make no law" ... respecting an establishment of
> >> >> religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or ... "abridging
> >> >> the freedom of speech," or of the press; or the right of the people
> >> >> peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of
> >> >> grievances.
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> >> > And the Second Amendment is telling that same Congress not to fuck with
> >> > the people's right to keep and bear arms.
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> >> and I'm sure he's going to say something like 'but that's different'.
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> > No, more like, "Boy, you're stupid."
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> Ah, the gratuitous insult followed by running away. That would have been my
> 2nd choice what you would do.
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> Well I have to say that's probably the most intelligent rebuttal you could
> come up with.
Seems like it's the only thing you could understand, and likely relate
to, with the low grade IQ you've got.
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