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On 15 Apr, 00:24, "Scout"
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> > On 14 Apr, 22:48, "Scout"
> > wrote:
> >> "wy" wrote in message
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> >>news:709235cd-ed8e-4a20-adb0-abdc4220763d@a3g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
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> >> > On 14 Apr, 21:01, "Scout"
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> "wy" wrote in message
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> >> >>news:ad458066-16bb-4921-97e9-bd8ca06c42b4@f18g2000vbs.goo
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> >> >> > On 14 Apr, 01:58, "Scout"
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> >> >> >> "wy" wrote in message
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> >> >> >>news:927674ce-ac3d-4fbe-899d-3718991c46b0@e13g2000vbn.
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> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 20:40, Steve wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:57:24 -0700 (PDT), wy
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >On 13 Apr, 18:50, "Scout"
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> "wy" wrote in message
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> >> >> >> >> >>news:5d978267-11aa-41d3-ab47-8b86c12119b4@c7g200
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> >> >> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 18:17, David Hartung wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 04/13/2013 04:36 PM, wy wrote:
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 17:05, RD Sandman
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> In other words, you don't need a hi cap magazine for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> anything.
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> So? What does need have to do with it? Do you need a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> V-8
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> or
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> V-6 in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> your car. Do you even need a 4?
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> > When it comes to killing, need has everything to do with
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > it?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > How
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > many
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > times and how quickly do you *need* to kill?
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> Look at the wording of the Second Amendment, and then go
> >> >> >> >> >> >> back
> >> >> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> learn
> >> >> >> >> >> >> what the founders had to say about it. The purpose of an
> >> >> >> >> >> >> armed
> >> >> >> >> >> >> citizenry
> >> >> >> >> >> >> is to protect the country from invaders, and if necessary,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> from
> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> government itself. That being the purpose, does it not
> >> >> >> >> >> >> make
> >> >> >> >> >> >> sense
> >> >> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> >> >> we arm ourselves with the expectation of facing soldiers
> >> >> >> >> >> >> who
> >> >> >> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> >> >> >> armed with automatic weapons and other nasty little
> >> >> >> >> >> >> surprises?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> IN
> >> >> >> >> >> >> such a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> scenario, limiting the size of clips, could mean more dead
> >> >> >> >> >> >> citizens.
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> >> >> >> >> >> > America had a tiny army in the late 1700s, too tiny to
> >> >> >> >> >> > cover
> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > territory of the time. It wasn't even a full-fledged
> >> >> >> >> >> > nation
> >> >> >> >> >> > yet
> >> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> > the ordinary sense. The second amendment gave the right to
> >> >> >> >> >> > bear
> >> >> >> >> >> > arms
> >> >> >> >> >> > for a militia to do the job of what the army couldn't do at
> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > time.
> >> >> >> >> >> > The militias were a deputized form of the army. That's
> >> >> >> >> >> > what
> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > second amendment is all about. It wasn't about giving
> >> >> >> >> >> > every
> >> >> >> >> >> > Joe
> >> >> >> >> >> > Blow
> >> >> >> >> >> > his gun just for the hell of it.
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> >> >> >> >> >> No, actually protecting the right of every Joe Blow to have
> >> >> >> >> >> his
> >> >> >> >> >> guns
> >> >> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> >> exactly the purpose of the 2nd.
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> >> >> >> >> >> So that when the militia was needed Joe Blow could show up
> >> >> >> >> >> armed
> >> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> >> able to
> >> >> >> >> >> perform his function in the militia.
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> >> >> >> >> >Right. Within the function of a militia, not outside of it.
> >> >> >> >> >The
> >> >> >> >> >second amendment stipulates "militia," not one's backyard.
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> >> >> >> >> There is no such stipulation in the Second Amendment. There is
> >> >> >> >> nothing in the 2A that suggests that the RKBA is limited to the
> >> >> >> >> militia, MR i...@email.com
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> >> >> >> > "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a
> >> >> >> > free
> >> >> >> > State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not
> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> > infringed."
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> >> >> >> > Is one's backyard included in that?
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> >> >> >> Absolutely,.
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> >> >> > Not mentioned in the Constitution. Next.
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> >> >> "...shall not be infringed."
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> >> >> What part of that do you have trouble with?
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> >> > "Militia"
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> >> Sorry, but I don't see that word in that portion of the 2nd.
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> > It's in the same 2nd.
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> But not in the section I asked you what part you had trouble with.
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> Apparently that's your problem. You don't understand simple English.
You're section is not the second amendment. It's an incomplete
portion of it. Sorry if I'm looking at the entire sentence and thus
complete amendment. I know how its completeness must keep being a
kick in the gut and brain for you., you can;t seem to handle it all.
Even the justices looked at the entire amendment to explain both the
militia and right to bear arms aspects of it in arriving at their
conclusions. And as partisan enough as it was, the left went with the
militia and the right went with the arms. Funny how that happens when
there's an absence of agreement, huh? Must mean the second amendment
makes no universal sense whatsoever, then.
> >> >> >> > I thought not.
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> >> >> >> But then your thinking is flawed.
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> >> >> > You're not disproving anything. Next.
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> >> >> I'm disproving your claims about the 2nd.
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> >> > You're doing a pretty piss-poor job of it.
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