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   >>>>>> @x14g2000vba.googlegroups.com:   
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   >>>>>>> On 12 Apr, 12:21, David Hartung  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 04/12/2013 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>> > "David Hartung"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> >news:W_ydnViZr5r-rfXMnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
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   >>>>>>>> > On 04/12/2013 10:46 AM, FirstPost wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> >> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:17:34 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>> >>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>> >>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> >>>news:18gem8dakvucu3ohfuu4c2rvia5sb3ra1g@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>> >>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:27:15 -0500, FirstPost   
   >>>>>>>> >>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simple math.  One gun with six shots would kill 6 kids.   
   >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>  One   
   >>>>>>> gun   
   >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> with   
   >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids.  Boy, you're stupid.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> >>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this   
   >>>>>> documentation   
   >>>>>>>> >>>>>> Sud   
   >>>>>>>> >>>>>> says you post.   
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   >>>>>>>> >>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it takes   
   >>>>>>>> >>>>> under 2 seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and   
   >>>>>>>> >>>>> immediately begin firing again without even having to   
   >>>>>>>> >>>>> recock the weapon. Boy, wy really is stupid.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> >>>> Well, not exactly, so I guess it's you that's stupid.  The   
   >>>>>>>> >>>> slide w   
   >>>>>>> ill   
   >>>>>>>> >>>> be locked back and you have to actuate the slide release   
   >>>>>>>> >>>> lever so effectively it's the same amount of movement.  And   
   >>>>>>>> >>>> it's during rel   
   >>>>>>> oads   
   >>>>>>>> >>>> when people can get away, take cover, or somebody tackles   
   >>>>>>>> >>>> them.  O   
   >>>>>>> r   
   >>>>>>>> >>>> the shooter can drop his magazine even.  Most people are   
   >>>>>>>> >>>> super fas   
   >>>>>>> t   
   >>>>>>>> >>>> speed shooting heros like you.  Matter of fact, most spree   
   >>>>>>>> >>>> shooter   
   >>>>>>> s   
   >>>>>>>> >>>> are hardly trained at all.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> >>> And yet, you claim that it takes tons of training to be able   
   >>>>>>>> >>> to take out a   
   >>>>>>>> >>> spree shooter.   
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   >>>>>>>> >> I take my gun out and practice maybe once a year.   
   >>>>>>>> >> Ejecting a clip is a matter of pushing a button with your   
   >>>>>>>> >> thumb on   
   >>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>> >> side of the gun and the clip pops out.  Slappinng a new clip   
   >>>>>>>> >> in take   
   >>>>>>> s   
   >>>>>>>> >> about as long regardless of experience.  The slide on the gun   
   >>>>>>>> >> re-engages with the flick of another small lever after the   
   >>>>>>>> >> clip is inserted and then it is just amattter of squeexing   
   >>>>>>>> >> the trigger. Taught my nephew how to to exactly that at the   
   >>>>>>>> >> age of 14. Took him all of 5 minutes to become proficient at   
   >>>>>>>> >> it. Until I bought my S&W 4006 back in 97 I had never used a   
   >>>>>>>> >> semi auto in my life.  Always used a revolver before.   
   >>>>>>>> >> But then leave to a liberal to make something as simple as   
   >>>>>>>> >> wiping   
   >>>>>> your   
   >>>>>>>> >> ass out to be some complex high skill task.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> > # It has been many years since I last fired an M16, but the   
   >>>>>>>> > process is # about the same. The bolt locks open when the last   
   >>>>>>>> > round is fired out   
   >>>>>>> of   
   >>>>>>>> > # a clip. One button to drop the magazine out, slap another   
   >>>>>>>> > one in,   
   >>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>>> > # push another button to release the bolt, which chambers the   
   >>>>>>>> > next   
   >>>>>> roun   
   >>>>>>> d   
   >>>>>>>> > # and cocks the weapon.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> > # It would seem that most of our liberal brethren on this   
   >>>>>>>> > forum have   
   >>>>>> no   
   >>>>>>>> > # idea how a weapon actually works.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> > Quite true.  The libtards operate on emotion only.   
   >>>>>>>> > And IMHO, a handgun magazine is easier to swap than a rifle.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> > Also if a Sandy Hook type of incident is considered, the perp   
   >>>>>>>> > could   
   >>>>>> hav   
   >>>>>>> e   
   >>>>>>>> > just blocked the door while taking a minute to swap magazines.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Once again the question becomes, what do our elected leaders   
   >>>>>>>> truly think they will accomplish by throwing up additional   
   >>>>>>>> roadblocks in front of citizens who wish to own weapons?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> A related question, how can our fellow citizens be so blind that   
   >>>>>>>> they cannot see that restricting the rights of law abiding   
   >>>>>>>> citizens does not make them safer from criminals?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The gun bill doesn't prevent you from owning guns.  Stop with   
   >>>>>>> your right wingnut hysteria.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> 1) It does not do what it purports to do.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> 2) A universal backgrond checks need universal registration to   
   >>>>>> even have a shot at working. Universal backgrond checks are just   
   >>>>>> another slip down the slope.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Universal background checks are not in the bill.  The change is   
   >>>>> that all sales for commercial purposes will have background checks.   
   >>>>> Excluded are sales or transfers between relatives, friends, etc..   
   >>>>> on onesy, twosy guns.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Speaking of hysterical have you heard the left wing mouth   
   >>>>>> breathers?   
   >>>>>>   
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   >>>> Commercial purposes? That infers an FFL is already involved.   
   >>>   
   >>> Or that the person is at a gun show selling multiple guns or selling   
   >>> guns for profit.  Not onesy-twosy.   
   >>>   
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   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Would that include someone selling off thier collection? Because   
   >> someone selling guns for profit ie buying and selling, would sorta   
   >> have to be an FFL.   
   >>   
   >   
   > We say so but there are plenty of folks selling guns for profit who don't   
   > have an FFL.  Should they?  Yes, IMHO, but they don't.  However, some of   
   > them must have the largest collections in the world.  ;)   
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