XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa.constitution.gun-rights,   
   talk.politics.guns   
   From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net   
      
   "Gray Guest"  wrote in message   
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   > "Scout"  wrote in news:kkflrp   
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   >>>>>>> wy  wrote in   
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   >>>>>>> @x14g2000vba.googlegroups.com:   
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   >>>>>>>> On 12 Apr, 12:21, David Hartung  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 04/12/2013 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>> > "David Hartung"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>> >news:W_ydnViZr5r-rfXMnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
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   >>>>>>>>> > On 04/12/2013 10:46 AM, FirstPost wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> >> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:17:34 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>> >>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>> >>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>news:18gem8dakvucu3ohfuu4c2rvia5sb3ra1g@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:27:15 -0500, FirstPost   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simple math.  One gun with six shots would kill 6 kids.   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>  One   
   >>>>>>>> gun   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> with   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids.  Boy, you're stupid.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this   
   >>>>>>> documentation   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Sud   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> says you post.   
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   >>>>>>>>> >>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it takes   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>>> under 2 seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded one and   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>>> immediately begin firing again without even having to recock   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>>> the weapon. Boy, wy really is stupid.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>> Well, not exactly, so I guess it's you that's stupid.  The   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>> slide w   
   >>>>>>>> ill   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>> be locked back and you have to actuate the slide release   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>> lever so effectively it's the same amount of movement.  And   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>> it's during rel   
   >>>>>>>> oads   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>> when people can get away, take cover, or somebody tackles   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>> them.  O   
   >>>>>>>> r   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>> the shooter can drop his magazine even.  Most people are   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>> super fas   
   >>>>>>>> t   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>> speed shooting heros like you.  Matter of fact, most spree   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>> shooter   
   >>>>>>>> s   
   >>>>>>>>> >>>> are hardly trained at all.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> >>> And yet, you claim that it takes tons of training to be able   
   >>>>>>>>> >>> to take out a   
   >>>>>>>>> >>> spree shooter.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> >> I take my gun out and practice maybe once a year.   
   >>>>>>>>> >> Ejecting a clip is a matter of pushing a button with your thumb   
   >>>>>>>>> >> on   
   >>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>> >> side of the gun and the clip pops out.  Slappinng a new clip in   
   >>>>>>>>> >> take   
   >>>>>>>> s   
   >>>>>>>>> >> about as long regardless of experience.  The slide on the gun   
   >>>>>>>>> >> re-engages with the flick of another small lever after the clip   
   >>>>>>>>> >> is inserted and then it is just amattter of squeexing the   
   >>>>>>>>> >> trigger. Taught my nephew how to to exactly that at the age of   
   >>>>>>>>> >> 14. Took him all of 5 minutes to become proficient at it.   
   >>>>>>>>> >> Until I bought my S&W 4006 back in 97 I had never used a semi   
   >>>>>>>>> >> auto in my life.  Always used a revolver before.   
   >>>>>>>>> >> But then leave to a liberal to make something as simple as   
   >>>>>>>>> >> wiping   
   >>>>>>> your   
   >>>>>>>>> >> ass out to be some complex high skill task.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> > # It has been many years since I last fired an M16, but the   
   >>>>>>>>> > process is # about the same. The bolt locks open when the last   
   >>>>>>>>> > round is fired out   
   >>>>>>>> of   
   >>>>>>>>> > # a clip. One button to drop the magazine out, slap another one   
   >>>>>>>>> > in,   
   >>>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>>>> > # push another button to release the bolt, which chambers the   
   >>>>>>>>> > next   
   >>>>>>> roun   
   >>>>>>>> d   
   >>>>>>>>> > # and cocks the weapon.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> > # It would seem that most of our liberal brethren on this forum   
   >>>>>>>>> > have   
   >>>>>>> no   
   >>>>>>>>> > # idea how a weapon actually works.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> > Quite true.  The libtards operate on emotion only.   
   >>>>>>>>> > And IMHO, a handgun magazine is easier to swap than a rifle.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> > Also if a Sandy Hook type of incident is considered, the perp   
   >>>>>>>>> > could   
   >>>>>>> hav   
   >>>>>>>> e   
   >>>>>>>>> > just blocked the door while taking a minute to swap magazines.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Once again the question becomes, what do our elected leaders truly   
   >>>>>>>>> think they will accomplish by throwing up additional roadblocks in   
   >>>>>>>>> front of citizens who wish to own weapons?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> A related question, how can our fellow citizens be so blind that   
   >>>>>>>>> they cannot see that restricting the rights of law abiding   
   >>>>>>>>> citizens does not make them safer from criminals?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The gun bill doesn't prevent you from owning guns.  Stop with your   
   >>>>>>>> right wingnut hysteria.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> 1) It does not do what it purports to do.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> 2) A universal backgrond checks need universal registration to even   
   >>>>>>> have a shot at working. Universal backgrond checks are just another   
   >>>>>>> slip down the slope.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Universal background checks are not in the bill.  The change is that   
   >>>>>> all sales for commercial purposes will have background checks.   
   >>>>>> Excluded are sales or transfers between relatives, friends, etc.. on   
   >>>>>> onesy, twosy guns.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Speaking of hysterical have you heard the left wing mouth breathers?   
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