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On 15 Apr, 03:08, "Scout"
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> > On 15 Apr, 00:24, "Scout"
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> >> > On 14 Apr, 22:48, "Scout"
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> >> >> > On 14 Apr, 21:01, "Scout"
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> >> >> >> > On 14 Apr, 01:58, "Scout"
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> >> >> >> >> "wy" wrote in message
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> >> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 20:40, Steve wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:57:24 -0700 (PDT), wy
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> >> >> >> >> >> >On 13 Apr, 18:50, "Scout"
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> >> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "wy" wrote in message
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> >> >> >> >> >> >>news:5d978267-11aa-41d3-ab47-8b86c12119b4@c7g
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 18:17, David Hartung
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 04/13/2013 04:36 PM, wy wrote:
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 17:05, RD Sandman
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> In other words, you don't need a hi cap magazine
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> anything.
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> So? What does need have to do with it? Do you need
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> V-8
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> or
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> V-6 in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> your car. Do you even need a 4?
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > When it comes to killing, need has everything to do
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > with
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > it?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > How
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > many
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > times and how quickly do you *need* to kill?
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Look at the wording of the Second Amendment, and then
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> go
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> back
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> learn
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> what the founders had to say about it. The purpose of
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> an
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> armed
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> citizenry
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is to protect the country from invaders, and if
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> necessary,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> from
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> government itself. That being the purpose, does it not
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> make
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> sense
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> we arm ourselves with the expectation of facing
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> soldiers
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> who
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> armed with automatic weapons and other nasty little
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> surprises?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> IN
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> such a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> scenario, limiting the size of clips, could mean more
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dead
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> citizens.
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> > America had a tiny army in the late 1700s, too tiny to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > cover
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > territory of the time. It wasn't even a full-fledged
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > nation
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > yet
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the ordinary sense. The second amendment gave the right
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > bear
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > arms
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > for a militia to do the job of what the army couldn't do
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > at
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > time.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > The militias were a deputized form of the army. That's
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > what
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > second amendment is all about. It wasn't about giving
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > every
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Joe
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Blow
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > his gun just for the hell of it.
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> No, actually protecting the right of every Joe Blow to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> >> >> >> his
> >> >> >> >> >> >> guns
> >> >> >> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> >> >> exactly the purpose of the 2nd.
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> >> >> >> >> >> >> So that when the militia was needed Joe Blow could show up
> >> >> >> >> >> >> armed
> >> >> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> able to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> perform his function in the militia.
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> >> >> >> >> >> >Right. Within the function of a militia, not outside of it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >The
> >> >> >> >> >> >second amendment stipulates "militia," not one's backyard.
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> >> >> >> >> >> There is no such stipulation in the Second Amendment. There
> >> >> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> >> nothing in the 2A that suggests that the RKBA is limited to
> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> militia, MR i...@email.com
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> >> >> >> >> > "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of
> >> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> >> > free
> >> >> >> >> > State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall
> >> >> >> >> > not
> >> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> >> > infringed."
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> >> >> >> >> > Is one's backyard included in that?
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> >> >> >> >> Absolutely,.
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> >> >> >> > Not mentioned in the Constitution. Next.
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> >> >> >> "...shall not be infringed."
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> >> >> >> What part of that do you have trouble with?
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> >> >> > "Militia"
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> >> >> Sorry, but I don't see that word in that portion of the 2nd.
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> >> > It's in the same 2nd.
>
> >> But not in the section I asked you what part you had trouble with.
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