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From: wy_@myself.com
On 15 Apr, 19:10, RD Sandman
wrote:
> wy wrote innews:46af94c2-1a13-4abe-89a3-4a21
15f8a33@a3g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:
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> > On 15 Apr, 12:13, RD Sandman
> > wrote:
> >> wy wrote
> >> innews:c196c493-c4ac-429d-8432-6353b7e44439@16
> > g2000vbx.googlegroups.com:
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> >> > On 14 Apr, 21:05, "Scout"
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> "RD Sandman" wrote in message
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> >> >>news:XnsA1A285CFB20Ehopewell@216.196.121.131...
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> >> >> > wy wrote in
> >> >> >news:b168afae-18a8-4ea9-9b74-e492c526af28@w1g2000vbw.googlegroups.
> >> >> >com
> >> >> >:
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> >> >> >> On 14 Apr, 12:33, RD Sandman
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>> wy wrote
> >> >> >>> innews:ad458066-16bb-4921-97e9-bd8ca06c42b4@f1
> >> >> >> 8g2000vbs.googlegroups.com:
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> >> >> >>> > On 14 Apr, 01:58, "Scout"
> >> >> >>> > wrote:
> >> >> >>> >> "wy" wrote in message
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> >> >> >>> >>news:927674ce-ac3d-4fbe-899d-3718991c46b0@e13g2000vbn.googleg
> >> >> >>> >>rou ps.
> >> > c
> >> >> >>> >>om
> >> >> >>> >> ...
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> >> >> >>> >> > On 13 Apr, 20:40, Steve
> >> >> >>> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>> >> >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:57:24 -0700 (PDT), wy
> >> >> >>> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>> >> >> >On 13 Apr, 18:50, "Scout"
> >> >> >>> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> "wy" wrote in message
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> >> >> >>> >> >> >>news:5d978267-11aa-41d3-ab47-8b86c12119b4@c7g2000vbe.go
> >> >> >>> >> >> >>ogl egr
> >> > o
> >> >> >>> >> >> >>ups .co
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> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 18:17, David Hartung
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> On 04/13/2013 04:36 PM, wy wrote:
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> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 17:05, RD Sandman
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> > t>
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
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> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> In other words, you don't need a hi cap
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> magazine for anythin
> >> >> >>> > g.
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> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> So? What does need have to do with it? Do you
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> need a V-
> >> >> >>> > 8 or a
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> V-6 in
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> your car. Do you even need a 4?
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> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > When it comes to killing, need has everything to
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > do with it?
> >> >> >>> > How
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > many
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > times and how quickly do you *need* to kill?
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> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Look at the wording of the Second Amendment, and
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> then go back a learn
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> what the founders had to say about it. The purpose
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> of an armed citizenry
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> is to protect the country from invaders, and if
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> necessary, from
> >> >> >>> > the
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> government itself. That being the purpose, does it
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> not make sens
> >> >> >>> > e
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> we arm ourselves with the expectation of facing
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> soldiers who wil
> >> >> >>> > l
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> armed with automatic weapons and other nasty
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> little surprises? I
> >> >> >>> > N
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> such a
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> scenario, limiting the size of clips, could mean
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> more dead citizens.
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> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > America had a tiny army in the late 1700s, too tiny
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > to cover the territory of the time. It wasn't even
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > a full-fledged nation ye
> >> >> >>> > t in
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > the ordinary sense. The second amendment gave the
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > right to bea
> >> >> >>> > r
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > arms
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > for a militia to do the job of what the army
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > couldn't do at the time.
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > The militias were a deputized form of the army.
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > That's what th
> >> >> >>> > e
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > second amendment is all about. It wasn't about
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > giving every Jo
> >> >> >>> > e
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Blow
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > his gun just for the hell of it.
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> >> >> >>> >> >> >> No, actually protecting the right of every Joe Blow
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> to have his gun
> >> >> >>> > s
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> exactly the purpose of the 2nd.
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> >> >> >>> >> >> >> So that when the militia was needed Joe Blow could
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> show up armed an
> >> >> >>> > d
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> able to
> >> >> >>> >> >> >> perform his function in the militia.
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> >> >> >>> >> >> >Right. Within the function of a militia, not outside of
> >> >> >>> >> >> >it. The second amendment stipulates "militia," not
> >> >> >>> >> >> >one's backyard.
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> >> >> >>> >> >> There is no such stipulation in the Second Amendment.
> >> >> >>> >> >> There is nothing in the 2A that suggests that the RKBA
> >> >> >>> >> >> is limited to the militia, MR i...@email.com
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> >> >> >>> >> > "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the
> >> >> >>> >> > security of a free State, the right of the people to keep
> >> >> >>> >> > and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
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> >> >> >>> >> > Is one's backyard included in that?
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> >> >> >>> >> Absolutely,.
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> >> >> >>> > Not mentioned in the Constitution. �Next.
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> >> >> >>> Neither is your free speech in a newsgroup on the internet. �
> > �Does
> >> >> >>> that mean you don't have it?
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> >> >> >> If you actually read, and are able to properly digest, the
> >> >> >> First amendment, it's not so much about giving everyone the
> >> >> >> right of free speech as it is about Congress making no law
> >> >> >> abridging the freedom of speech.
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> >> >> >> "Congress shall make no law" ... �respecting an establishme
> > nt of
> >> >> >> religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or ...
> >> >> >> "abridging the freedom of speech," or of the press; or the
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