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   >>>>>>>> @x14g2000vba.googlegroups.com:   
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   >>>>>>>>> On 12 Apr, 12:21, David Hartung wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 04/12/2013 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>> > "David Hartung" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>> >news:W_ydnViZr5r-rfXMnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
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   >>>>>>>>>> > On 04/12/2013 10:46 AM, FirstPost wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:17:34 -0400, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>> >>> "deep" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>news:18gem8dakvucu3ohfuu4c2rvia5sb3ra1g@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:27:15 -0500, FirstPost   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simple math. One gun with six shots would kill 6   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> kids. One   
   >>>>>>>>> gun   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> with   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> 30 shots would kill 30 kids. Boy, you're stupid.   
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   >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Which is not proof. How about providing some of this   
   >>>>>>>> documentation   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Sud   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> says you post.   
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   >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> One gun with 4 10 round clips can kill 40 kids as it   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> takes under 2 seconds to eject a clip, insert a loaded   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> one and immediately begin firing again without even   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> having to recock the weapon. Boy, wy really is stupid.   
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   >>>>>>>>>> >>>> Well, not exactly, so I guess it's you that's stupid.   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>> The slide w   
   >>>>>>>>> ill   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>> be locked back and you have to actuate the slide release   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>> lever so effectively it's the same amount of movement.   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>> And it's during rel   
   >>>>>>>>> oads   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>> when people can get away, take cover, or somebody tackles   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>> them. O   
   >>>>>>>>> r   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>> the shooter can drop his magazine even. Most people are   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>> super fas   
   >>>>>>>>> t   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>> speed shooting heros like you. Matter of fact, most   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>> spree shooter   
   >>>>>>>>> s   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>>> are hardly trained at all.   
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   >>>>>>>>>> >>> And yet, you claim that it takes tons of training to be   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>> able to take out a   
   >>>>>>>>>> >>> spree shooter.   
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   >>>>>>>>>> >> I take my gun out and practice maybe once a year.   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> Ejecting a clip is a matter of pushing a button with your   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> thumb on   
   >>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> side of the gun and the clip pops out. Slappinng a new   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> clip in take   
   >>>>>>>>> s   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> about as long regardless of experience. The slide on the   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> gun re-engages with the flick of another small lever after   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> the clip is inserted and then it is just amattter of   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> squeexing the trigger. Taught my nephew how to to exactly   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> that at the age of 14. Took him all of 5 minutes to become   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> proficient at it. Until I bought my S&W 4006 back in 97 I   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> had never used a semi auto in my life. Always used a   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> revolver before. But then leave to a liberal to make   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> something as simple as wiping   
   >>>>>>>> your   
   >>>>>>>>>> >> ass out to be some complex high skill task.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> > # It has been many years since I last fired an M16, but the   
   >>>>>>>>>> > process is # about the same. The bolt locks open when the   
   >>>>>>>>>> > last round is fired out   
   >>>>>>>>> of   
   >>>>>>>>>> > # a clip. One button to drop the magazine out, slap another   
   >>>>>>>>>> > one in,   
   >>>>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>>>>> > # push another button to release the bolt, which chambers   
   >>>>>>>>>> > the next   
   >>>>>>>> roun   
   >>>>>>>>> d   
   >>>>>>>>>> > # and cocks the weapon.   
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   >>>>>>>>>> > # It would seem that most of our liberal brethren on this   
   >>>>>>>>>> > forum have   
   >>>>>>>> no   
   >>>>>>>>>> > # idea how a weapon actually works.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> > Quite true. The libtards operate on emotion only.   
   >>>>>>>>>> > And IMHO, a handgun magazine is easier to swap than a rifle.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> > Also if a Sandy Hook type of incident is considered, the   
   >>>>>>>>>> > perp could   
   >>>>>>>> hav   
   >>>>>>>>> e   
   >>>>>>>>>> > just blocked the door while taking a minute to swap   
   >>>>>>>>>> > magazines.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Once again the question becomes, what do our elected leaders   
   >>>>>>>>>> truly think they will accomplish by throwing up additional   
   >>>>>>>>>> roadblocks in front of citizens who wish to own weapons?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> A related question, how can our fellow citizens be so blind   
   >>>>>>>>>> that they cannot see that restricting the rights of law   
   >>>>>>>>>> abiding citizens does not make them safer from criminals?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The gun bill doesn't prevent you from owning guns. Stop with   
   >>>>>>>>> your right wingnut hysteria.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> 1) It does not do what it purports to do.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> 2) A universal backgrond checks need universal registration to   
   >>>>>>>> even have a shot at working. Universal backgrond checks are just   
   >>>>>>>> another slip down the slope.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Universal background checks are not in the bill. The change is   
   >>>>>>> that all sales for commercial purposes will have background   
   >>>>>>> checks. Excluded are sales or transfers between relatives,   
   >>>>>>> friends, etc.. on onesy, twosy guns.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Speaking of hysterical have you heard the left wing mouth   
   >>>>>>>> breathers?   
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   >>>>>> Commercial purposes? That infers an FFL is already involved.   
      
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