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   Message 52,933 of 54,497   
   bellsouth.net to RD Sandman   
   Re: Time for Mississippi to elect a new    
   16 Apr 13 21:34:24   
   
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   From: sid9@   
      
   "RD Sandman"  wrote in message   
   news:XnsA1A49923B5EAChopewell@216.196.121.131...   
   > wy  wrote in   
   > news:abbcb413-a928-437b-9ba3-dad98c2b7a63@o9g2000vbk.googlegroups.com:   
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   >> On 16 Apr, 16:15, RD Sandman    
   >> wrote:   
   >>> wy  wrote   
   >>> innews:be2c70e8-f429-4b47-8ee2-1f17ae09c165@o9   
   >> g2000vbk.googlegroups.com:   
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   >>> > On 15 Apr, 19:10, RD Sandman    
   >>> > wrote:   
   >>> >> wy  wrote   
   >>> >> innews:46af94c2-1a13-4abe-89a3-4a21415f8a33@a3   
   >>> > g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:   
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   >>> >> > On 15 Apr, 12:13, RD Sandman    
   >>> >> > wrote:   
   >>> >> >> wy  wrote   
   >>> >> >> innews:c196c493-c4ac-429d-8432-6353b7e44439@16   
   >>> >> > g2000vbx.googlegroups.com:   
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   >>> >> >> > On 14 Apr, 21:05, "Scout"   
   >>> >> >> >  wrote:   
   >>> >> >> >> "RD Sandman"  wrote in   
   >>> >> >> >> message   
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   >>> >> >> >>news:XnsA1A285CFB20Ehopewell@216.196.121.131...   
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   >>> >> >> >> > wy  wrote in   
   >>> >> >> >> >news:b168afae-18a8-4ea9-9b74-e492c526af28@w1g2000vbw.googleg   
   >>> >> >> >> >rou ps. com   
   >>> >> >> >> >:   
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   >>> >> >> >> >> On 14 Apr, 12:33, RD Sandman   
   >>> >> >> >> >>  wrote:   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> wy  wrote   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> innews:ad458066-16bb-4921-97e9-bd8ca06c42b4@f1   
   >>> >> >> >> >> 8g2000vbs.googlegroups.com:   
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   >>> >> >> >> >>> > On 14 Apr, 01:58, "Scout"   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >  wrote:   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> "wy"  wrote in message   
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   >>> >> >> >> >>> >>news:927674ce-ac3d-4fbe-899d-3718991c46b0@e13g2000vbn.g   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >>oog leg rou ps.   
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   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > On 13 Apr, 20:40, Steve    
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > wrote:   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:57:24 -0700 (PDT), wy   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>  wrote:   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >On 13 Apr, 18:50, "Scout"   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >wrote:   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> "wy"  wrote in message   
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   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>news:5d978267-11aa-41d3-ab47-8b86c12119b4@c7g2000   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>vbe .go ogl egr   
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   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 18:17, David Hartung   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >  wrote:   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> On 04/13/2013 04:36 PM, wy wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > On 13 Apr, 17:05, RD Sandman   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> > t>   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> In other words, you don't need a hi cap   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> magazine for anythin   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> > g.   
   >>>   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> So? What does need have to do with it? Do   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> you need a V-   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> > 8 or a   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> V-6 in   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> your car. Do you even need a 4?   
   >>>   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > When it comes to killing, need has   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > everything to do with it?   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> > How   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > many   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > times and how quickly do you *need* to   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > kill?   
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   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Look at the wording of the Second Amendment,   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> and then go back a learn   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> what the founders had to say about it. The   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> purpose of an armed citizenry   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> is to protect the country from invaders, and   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> if necessary, from   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> > the   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> government itself. That being the purpose,   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> does it not make sens   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> > e   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> that   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> we arm ourselves with the expectation of   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> facing soldiers who wil   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> > l   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> be   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> armed with automatic weapons and other nasty   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> little surprises? I   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> > N   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> such a   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> scenario, limiting the size of clips, could   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> mean more dead citizens.   
   >>>   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > America had a tiny army in the late 1700s,   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > too tiny to cover the territory of the time.   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > It wasn't even a full-fledged nation ye   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> > t in   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > the ordinary sense. The second amendment gave   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > the right to bea   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> > r   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > arms   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > for a militia to do the job of what the army   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > couldn't do at the time.   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > The militias were a deputized form of the   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > army. That's what th   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> > e   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > second amendment is all about. It wasn't   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > about giving every Jo   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> > e   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Blow   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > his gun just for the hell of it.   
   >>>   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> No, actually protecting the right of every Joe   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Blow to have his gun   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> > s   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> is   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> exactly the purpose of the 2nd.   
   >>>   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> So that when the militia was needed Joe Blow   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> could show up armed an   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> > d   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> able to   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> perform his function in the militia.   
   >>>   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >Right. Within the function of a militia, not   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >outside of it. The second amendment stipulates   
   >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >"militia," not one's backyard.   
   >>>   
      
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