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   Message 52,935 of 54,497   
   wy to All   
   Re: Time for Mississippi to elect a new    
   16 Apr 13 18:47:38   
   
   ce0a7a2a   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa.constitution.gun-rights,   
   talk.politics.guns   
   From: wy_@myself.com   
      
   On 16 Apr, 18:10, RD Sandman    
   wrote:   
   > wy  wrote in news:4f477c34-2423-4cb6-9ee0-5dc32db1a806   
   > @m1g2000vbe.googlegroups.com:   
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   > > On 16 Apr, 16:26, RD Sandman    
   > > wrote:   
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   > >> Go read Article I, section 8 clauses 15 and 16, you ignorant hick.   
   >   
   > > I already did, and it was already explained to you.  I can't help it   
   > > if you're too wrapped up in your own right wingnut universe to   
   > > understand what it really says as opposed to what you desperately wish   
   > > it says.  Interestingly, you're not explaining anything to the   
   > > contrary of what I already explained.  But here, let the US Senate   
   > > explain it to you if you don;t believe me:   
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   > > "Under these provisions, the right of the states to maintain a   
   > > militia, including what is now the National Guard, is always   
   > > subordinate to the power of Congress.  In 1795 Congress first gave the   
   > > president authority to call out the militia to suppress   
   > > insurrections.  Presidents employed this power to enforce federal law   
   > > during desegregation disputes during the 1950s, and later during the   
   > > civil disturbances in various cities during the 1960s."   
   >   
   > > Get it?  Militias are "always subordinate to the power of Congress."   
   > > If militias are always subordinate to the power of Congress, then it's   
   > > obvious that if there are to be militias, they would need to be armed,   
   > > hence, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a   
   > > free State [not several states, but "a free State," capitalized and as   
   > > in *nation*], the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not   
   > > be infringed."   
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   > >http://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_item/constitution.htm#a1_sec8   
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   > State militia's are subservient to whichever entity called them   
   > out...state or federal.  That was part of the problem in New Orleans.   
   > They wear two hats.  I realize that is a much larger number than you can   
   > usually handle....but.....   
      
   Nice of you to avoid the second amendment in that response.  Remember   
   the part that said "a free State"?  Not several states.  Respond to   
   that.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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