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   From: sofala@aapt.net.au   
      
   "Scout"  wrote:   
   > "bringyagrogalong"  wrote in message   
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   > >> >> > "Spartan613"  wrote:   
   > >> >> >> "Dechucka"  wrote in message   
   > >> >> >> >  wrote in message   
   > >> >> >> >> "Dechucka" wrote:   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>> snip   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>>>>> If done enough times.....   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> LOL so you're going after all tank crew members with your   
   > >> >> >> >>>>> trusty GI-O .22   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>>> As the opportunity permits - absolutely.   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >>> I beleive that the cops may catch up with you before you murder   
   > >> >> >> >>> every tank crew mwmber in the US   
   >   
   > >> >> >> >> You may be right - you may be wrong.   
   >   
   > >> >> >> > actually I'm right   
   >   
   > >> >> >> Based on your experience, or what you read somewhere?   
   >   
   > >> >> > Vis-à-vis the Boston bombings...   
   >   
   > >> >> > To extrapolate the NRA's nonsense:   
   >   
   > >> >> > Bombs don't kill people, people kill people.   
   >   
   > >> >> Exactly. The person or person(s) who made, set and detonated those   
   > >> >> bombs are to blame.   
   >   
   > >> > Precisely!   
   >   
   > >> > So why should law abiding citizens be deprived from owning and   
   > >> > detonating bombs?   
   >   
   > >> Exactly. There are a number of legal and legitimate uses for bombs. From   
   > >> removing stumps to breaking up bed rock so you can dig a deep hole.   
   >   
   > > You just dug one for yourself.   
   >   
   > Nope, but I bet you're getting ready to use a whole lot of straw.   
      
   Nope, that's what you're about to do.   
      
   > > I'm not talking about a few hayseeds, I'm talking about the same sort   
   > > of cart blanche freedom that gun owners have.   
   >   
   > That's not what you said. If you wish to backpedal, it's a bit too late for   
   > that.   
      
   No backpedal. It's exactly what I said.   
      
   I said: Why should law abiding citizens be deprived from owning and   
   detonating bombs?   
      
   You restricted those law abiding citizens to a minuscule part of the   
   population, I didn't.   
      
   > > Are you seriously telling me that all citizens in the US are allowed   
   > > to have garages and homes full of bombs?   
   >   
   > Where did I say that?   
      
   So you don't believe that Americans have the right to own bombs?   
      
   Which was exactly my point.   
      
   > (Straw man #1)   
      
   Only in your fevered imagination.   
      
   > > If not, why not?   
   >   
   > Because I didn't say that.   
      
   So you don't believe that Americans have the right to own bombs?   
      
   It's nice to have your agreement on that.   
      
   Gee! That was easy, all I need do now is convince you that the right   
   to own guns is just as stupid.   
      
   > > See below:   
   >   
   > >> > Why should they be penalised because of the actions of criminals?   
   >   
   > >> Why should they?   
   >   
   > > So you have no objection if every home in the US was packed with bombs   
   > > and bomb making equipment?   
   >   
   > Where did I say that?   
      
   So you don't believe that Americans have the right to own bombs?   
      
   Which was exactly my point   
      
   > (Straw man #2)   
      
   You'd be better served using that straw to line the bottom of the hole   
   that you're digging for yourself.   
      
   > However, to be honest, every home in America is packed with bomb making   
   > equipment, if you know how to use it.   
      
   Better give those addresses to the Wallopers.   
      
   > > You don't foresee any problems with that?   
   >   
   > Not really, because the overwhelming majority of people are law abiding and   
   > criminals don't care about the law anyway.   
      
   The police don't agree with you.   
      
   Seems your marching to the tune of your own fife.   
      
   > > Interesting, but stupid!   
   >   
   > You're not that interesting, but you certainly are stupid.   
      
   The masses disagree with you.   
      
   > > Mind you, you also don't foresee a problem with homes being packed   
   > > with guns, even though more Americans have been shot to death by   
   > > fellow Americans then by all their enemies. Over a million since John   
   > > Lennon was gunned down.   
   >   
   > Where did I say that?   
      
   NOW we're getting somewhere!   
      
   So you disavow saying that you don't foresee a problem with homes   
   being packed with guns.   
      
   Very wise.   
      
   > (Straw man #3)   
      
   Best add it to the hole your digging for yourself.   
      
   If it gets any deeper you might want to consider brushing up on   
   Mandarin.   
      
   > > Yep! Those guns sure are making things safer, Jethro.  LOL   
   >   
   > Overall they are. Around 1.5-2.5 million defensive gun uses each year   
   > according to studies.   
      
   FFS Not with that bullshit again.   
      
   1.5 - 2.5 million.  LOL Some study   
      
   How old are you, twelve?   
      
   > >> > Whoops!! That sounds exactly like the pro-gun argument, doesn't it?   
   >   
   > >> Yep, and you're not showing where there is any error in the reasoning.   
   >   
   > > I believe the opposite to be the case.   
   >   
   > Oh, well as long as YOU believe it....then who needs proof, right?   
      
   What part of this don't you understand, you simian...   
      
   "More Americans have been shot to death by fellow Americans then by   
   all their enemies. Over a million since John Lennon was gunned down".   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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