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   "bringyagrogalong" wrote in message   
   news:c0cd14f4-4c50-4f4d-9151-0bc4ecad274d@di5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...   
   > "Scout" wrote:   
   >> "bringyagrogalong" wrote in message   
   >> > "Scout" wrote:   
   >> >> "bringyagrogalong" wrote in message   
   >> >> > "Scout" wrote:   
   >> >> >> "bringyagrogalong" wrote in message   
   >> >> >> > "Spartan613" wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> "Dechucka" wrote in message   
   >> >> >> >> > wrote in message   
   >> >> >> >> >> "Dechucka" wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> >>> snip   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> >>>>>> If done enough times.....   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> >>>>> LOL so you're going after all tank crew members with your   
   >> >> >> >> >>>>> trusty GI-O .22   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> >>>> As the opportunity permits - absolutely.   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> >>> I beleive that the cops may catch up with you before you   
   >> >> >> >> >>> murder   
   >> >> >> >> >>> every tank crew mwmber in the US   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> >> You may be right - you may be wrong.   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> > actually I'm right   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> Based on your experience, or what you read somewhere?   
   >>   
   >> >> >> > Vis-à-vis the Boston bombings...   
   >>   
   >> >> >> > To extrapolate the NRA's nonsense:   
   >>   
   >> >> >> > Bombs don't kill people, people kill people.   
   >>   
   >> >> >> Exactly. The person or person(s) who made, set and detonated those   
   >> >> >> bombs are to blame.   
   >>   
   >> >> > Precisely!   
   >>   
   >> >> > So why should law abiding citizens be deprived from owning and   
   >> >> > detonating bombs?   
   >>   
   >> >> Exactly. There are a number of legal and legitimate uses for bombs.   
   >> >> From   
   >> >> removing stumps to breaking up bed rock so you can dig a deep hole.   
   >>   
   >> > You just dug one for yourself.   
   >>   
   >> Nope, but I bet you're getting ready to use a whole lot of straw.   
   >   
   > Nope, that's what you're about to do.   
   >   
   >> > I'm not talking about a few hayseeds, I'm talking about the same sort   
   >> > of cart blanche freedom that gun owners have.   
   >>   
   >> That's not what you said. If you wish to backpedal, it's a bit too late   
   >> for   
   >> that.   
   >   
   > No backpedal. It's exactly what I said.   
   >   
   > I said: Why should law abiding citizens be deprived from owning and   
   > detonating bombs?   
   >   
   > You restricted those law abiding citizens to a minuscule part of the   
   > population, I didn't.   
      
   No, I just pointed out a couple of the legitimate, and legal, uses for   
   bombs.   
      
   It is yourself who is claiming that applies to "a few hayseeds".   
      
      
   >> > Are you seriously telling me that all citizens in the US are allowed   
   >> > to have garages and homes full of bombs?   
   >>   
   >> Where did I say that?   
   >   
      
   No answer, and you said I was going to be the one using the straw.   
      
      
   > So you don't believe that Americans have the right to own bombs?   
      
   Where did I say that?   
      
   Strawman #4   
      
   > Which was exactly my point.   
      
   That you can set up straw men?   
      
   >> (Straw man #1)   
   >   
   > Only in your fevered imagination.   
      
   Then why can't you answer my question, and tell me where I said that?   
      
      
   >> > If not, why not?   
   >>   
   >> Because I didn't say that.   
   >   
   > So you don't believe that Americans have the right to own bombs?   
      
   Where did I say that?   
      
   Straw man #5   
      
   > It's nice to have your agreement on that.   
      
   Lie #1   
      
   > Gee! That was easy, all I need do   
      
   Is lie?   
      
   >now is convince you that the right   
   > to own guns is just as stupid.   
      
   Good luck because you haven't succeed with bombs, and they are still legal   
   for people to own and use for legal and legitimate purposes.   
      
      
      
   >> > See below:   
   >>   
   >> >> > Why should they be penalised because of the actions of criminals?   
   >>   
   >> >> Why should they?   
   >>   
   >> > So you have no objection if every home in the US was packed with bombs   
   >> > and bomb making equipment?   
   >>   
   >> Where did I say that?   
   >   
   > So you don't believe that Americans have the right to own bombs?   
      
   Where did I say that?   
      
   Straw man #6   
      
   > Which was exactly my point   
      
   That you're good with making straw men?   
      
   >> (Straw man #2)   
   >   
   > You'd be better served using that straw to line the bottom of the hole   
   > that you're digging for yourself.   
      
   No hole, just watching you show everyone how you ask leading questions based   
   on straw men you create and then attempt to assert agreement from me with   
   what you pulled out of your ass.   
      
      
   >> However, to be honest, every home in America is packed with bomb making   
   >> equipment, if you know how to use it.   
   >   
   > Better give those addresses to the Wallopers.   
      
   What part of "every home" do you not understand?   
      
   Heck, I bet I could find bomb making equipment in your home.   
      
   >> > You don't foresee any problems with that?   
   >>   
   >> Not really, because the overwhelming majority of people are law abiding   
   >> and   
   >> criminals don't care about the law anyway.   
   >   
   > The police don't agree with you.   
      
   Cite.   
      
   > Seems your marching to the tune of your own fife.   
      
   hardly I share reality with a lot of people, not you, but the overwhelming   
   majority of people.   
      
      
   >> > Interesting, but stupid!   
   >>   
   >> You're not that interesting, but you certainly are stupid.   
   >   
   > The masses disagree with you.   
      
   Cite.   
      
   >> > Mind you, you also don't foresee a problem with homes being packed   
   >> > with guns, even though more Americans have been shot to death by   
   >> > fellow Americans then by all their enemies. Over a million since John   
   >> > Lennon was gunned down.   
   >>   
   >> Where did I say that?   
   >   
   > NOW we're getting somewhere!   
      
   Where? Your fantasy?   
      
   > So you disavow saying that you don't foresee a problem with homes   
   > being packed with guns.   
      
   Yes.   
      
   And I note you didn't cite where I said this.   
      
      
   > Very wise.   
      
   Na, I just know what I said, and I know you lied about it.   
      
   >> (Straw man #3)   
   >   
   > Best add it to the hole your digging for yourself.   
   >   
   > If it gets any deeper you might want to consider brushing up on   
   > Mandarin.   
      
   Sure, meanwhile we see who's throwing the straw around.   
      
      
   >> > Yep! Those guns sure are making things safer, Jethro. LOL   
   >>   
   >> Overall they are. Around 1.5-2.5 million defensive gun uses each year   
   >> according to studies.   
   >   
   > FFS Not with that bullshit again.   
   >   
   > 1.5 - 2.5 million. LOL Some study   
   >   
   > How old are you, twelve?   
      
   Actually that is the range produced by several studies, but I don't suppose   
   the facts matter to you.   
      
      
      
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