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   From: trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au   
      
   On 4/23/2013 10:43 AM, Scout wrote:   
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   > "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message   
   > news:atm0u2F7gpiU1@mid.individual.net...   
   >> On 4/23/2013 9:18 AM, Scout wrote:   
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   >>> "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message   
   >>> news:atlsu0F6niuU1@mid.individual.net...   
   >>>> On 4/23/2013 8:30 AM, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>> "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:atkfi3Fr1mrU1@mid.individual.net...   
   >>>>>> On 4/22/2013 4:45 PM, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> news:atk47kFoj0aU1@mid.individual.net...   
   >>>>>>>> On 4/22/2013 4:17 PM, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>> message   
   >>>>>>>>> news:atjmslFm001U1@mid.individual.net...   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/2013 12:07 PM, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>> message   
   >>>>>>>>>>> news:atjh2kFku7dU1@mid.individual.net...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/21/2013 7:35 AM, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:atev54Fkl0sU1@mid.individual.net...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2013 3:53 PM, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:atec94Fgv0lU1@mid.individual.net...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2013 11:19 AM, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson"    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ate4m7Ffj68U1@mid.individual.net...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2013 9:44 AM, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson"    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ate2shFf89pU1@mid.individual.net...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2013 9:27 AM, Scout wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson"    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ate000Fek8tU2@mid.individual.net...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2013 8:39 AM, Dechucka wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "RD Sandman"    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:XnsA1A782B5E82D8hopewell@216.196.121.131...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trevor Wilson    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:atc1j0F11bvU1@mid.individual.net:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/19/2013 7:56 AM, Dechucka wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .... something as simple as universal background   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checks   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passed. Maybe the US is just a sick and violent   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> society   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Not so much. The US is saddled with a bunch of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gutless   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politicians,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who value the opinions of the NRA more than their   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituents.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> majority of Americans are probably disgusted with   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elected   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> senators. They need to be reminded of just how   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weak   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> creatures   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're not interested in the well-being of the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are interested in re-election.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sad, so election is more important than dead   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Americans   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **It would seem so. Except to a tiny handful of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republican   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> senators   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the majority of Democrat senators. Americans   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> names in mind. Both the brave ones and the gutless   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the ones that voted for it need to go,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Why do you support a criminal's right to obtain   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> firearms?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who said I do?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You object to good, sane controls on guns.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do? Where did I do so?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **In every single discussion you and I have had   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding gun   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laws.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In every single discussion there was no good, sane gun   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposed.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> **That would your opinion. As shown by events, a wrong   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's a matter of opinion then that means you can't really   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> define   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly what a good sane gun control law is other than it's   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> something   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU approve of.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> **Wrong. Good, sane gun control laws acheive results.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Not necessarily.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> **Yes, necessarily.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> So if you can't show results that were actually caused by that   
   >>>>>>>>> law,   
   >>>>>>>>> then   
   >>>>>>>>> we can both agree it wasn't a good, sane law?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> **I've already provided the results of the Australian gun control   
   >>>>>>>> laws. All good.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> No, you've asserted them, and you claimed they were the result of   
   >>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>> change in the laws.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Bad, tyrannical, even evil laws can also achieve   
   >>>>>>>>>>> results.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> **Indeed. Bad results.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
      
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