XPost: uk.politics.guns, aus.politics.guns, aus.politics   
   XPost: talk.politics.guns   
   From: haggisz@hotmail.com   
      
   Trevor Wilson wrote:   
   > On 4/24/2013 11:44 AM, F Murtz wrote:   
   >> Trevor Wilson wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   Just because you have results doesn't make the law good and sane.   
   >>>   
   >>> **We have good results. Gun related crimes are down. Gun thefts are   
   >>> dramatically down. Mass murders, via the use of firearms have completely   
   >>> ceased.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Too bad It has not had the same effect on total murders.   
   >   
   > **It has, but since Australians rarely use firearms to commit murder,   
   > the total change will always be much smaller. In any case the 1996 gun   
   > control laws were desiged to deal with the crime of mass murder, via the   
   > use of guns. In that respect the 1996 gun control laws, introduced by   
   > the Howard government, can be judged as a tremendous success.   
   >   
   > The US is very different. More than 60% of US homicides involve the use   
   > of firearms. As a consequence, any reduction in the availability of   
   > firearms to undesirables, is likely to cause a far greater reduction in   
   > total homicides. Of course, as long as the NRA controls the Republicans   
   > and remains unanswerable to the US people, the killing will continue   
   > unabated.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   Therefore, a reasonable person will accept that the 1996 gun   
   >>> control laws were a good change.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Has not changed the status quo discernibly.   
   >>   
   >   
   > **You need to prove that. In your proof, you should care to note that in   
   > the 18 years prior to the Howard gun control law changes, there were 13   
   > mass murders, comitted via the use of firearms. Since 1996, there have   
   > been none, nada, zip, zero incidences.   
   >   
   > Seems like a good thing to me.   
   >   
   >   
   You keep on and on inexorably about mass gun  murders which play so   
   little part in the great scheme of things  as to be almost non existent   
      
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