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   From: SaPeIsMa@gmail.com   
      
   "F Murtz"  wrote in message   
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   > Trevor Wilson wrote:   
   >> On 4/24/2013 11:44 AM, F Murtz wrote:   
   >>> Trevor Wilson wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   Just because you have results doesn't make the law good and sane.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> **We have good results. Gun related crimes are down. Gun thefts are   
   >>>> dramatically down. Mass murders, via the use of firearms have   
   >>>> completely   
   >>>> ceased.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Too bad It has not had the same effect on total murders.   
   >>   
   >> **It has, but since Australians rarely use firearms to commit murder,   
   >> the total change will always be much smaller. In any case the 1996 gun   
   >> control laws were desiged to deal with the crime of mass murder, via the   
   >> use of guns. In that respect the 1996 gun control laws, introduced by   
   >> the Howard government, can be judged as a tremendous success.   
   >>   
   >> The US is very different. More than 60% of US homicides involve the use   
   >> of firearms. As a consequence, any reduction in the availability of   
   >> firearms to undesirables, is likely to cause a far greater reduction in   
   >> total homicides. Of course, as long as the NRA controls the Republicans   
   >> and remains unanswerable to the US people, the killing will continue   
   >> unabated.   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   Therefore, a reasonable person will accept that the 1996 gun   
   >>>> control laws were a good change.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Has not changed the status quo discernibly.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> **You need to prove that. In your proof, you should care to note that in   
   >> the 18 years prior to the Howard gun control law changes, there were 13   
   >> mass murders, comitted via the use of firearms. Since 1996, there have   
   >> been none, nada, zip, zero incidences.   
   >>   
   >> Seems like a good thing to me.   
   >>   
   >>   
   > You keep on and on inexorably about mass gun  murders which play so little   
   > part in the great scheme of things  as to be almost non existent   
      
      
      
   And he continues to ignore to NEGATIVE effect in the huge increase of crimes   
   against people BECAUSE they are now defenseless against thugs who have no   
   problems using other means since guns are less available.   
      
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