XPost: uk.politics.guns, aus.politics.guns   
   From: sly_bacon@hotmail.com   
      
   in message news:b1dqn8Fou0eU2@mid.individual.net...   
   > On 6/06/2013 10:46 AM, Truebrit wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 28/05/2013 11:50 PM, a425couple wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> "Mary Alison"  wrote in message...   
   >>>>>>>>> Unfree Kingdom bans all guns, and now no one can defend themselves   
   >>>>>>>>> against   
   >>>>>>>>> a beheading of a soldier in the street, in broad daylight! Bloody   
   >>>>>>>>> murder!---   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ... The right of self-defense is the first law of   
   >>>>>>>>> nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to   
   >>>>>>>>> confine   
   >>>>>>>>> this   
   >>>>>>>>> right within the narrowest limits possible. Whenever standing   
   >>>>>>>>> armies   
   >>>>>>>>> are   
   >>>>>>>>> kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is,   
   >>>>>>>>> under   
   >>>>>>>>> any   
   >>>>>>>>> color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already   
   >>>>>>>>> annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. - St. George Tucker,   
   >>>>>>>>> Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England (1803) ( From   
   >>>>>>>>> which   
   >>>>>>>>> U.S.   
   >>>>>>>>> laws regarding the RKBA ( Human Right to Keep & Bear Arms )   
   >>>>>>>>>    derrived )   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yes, the US situation owes a lot to what great English   
   >>>>>>>> thinkers like Blackstone and John Locke wrote.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their   
   >>>>>>>>> defence   
   >>>>>>>>> suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law; ..." - English   
   >>>>>>>>> Bill of   
   >>>>>>>>> Rights 1689   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Not a real clear bright line, is it?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> By the way, what country are you in?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "keithr"  wrote:  Lalaland   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Truebrit wrote:   
   >>>>>> Given the content of your posts I would say you are well situated.   
   >>>>>> Truebrit.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "keithr"  wrote:   
   >>>>> Not real bright at picking up context are you?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Truebrit wrote:   
   >>>> Not real bright in knowing where the place commonly referred to as,   
   >>>> Lalaland   
   >>>> is are you?   
   >>>> Truebrit   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> "keithr"  wrote:  Judging by the quality of   
   >>> your   
   >>> arguments, it could quite possibly be the UK.   
   >>   
   >>Truebrit wrote:   
   >>  Epic fail on your behalf.   
   >> Truebrit.   
   >   
   >   
   >"keithr"  wrote: If you're not in the UK then your   
   >'nym is a lie.   
   >   
   Epic fail. Again!   
   Truebrit.   
      
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