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   RD Sandman  wrote in   
   news:XnsA324917D4CEC9Hopewell@216.196.97.131:   
      
   > "Dechucka"  wrote in news:n--   
   > dnfGxjYGja_rOnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@westnet.com.au:   
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   >>   
   >> "RD Sandman"  wrote in message   
   >> news:XnsA324899FCBA55Hopewell@216.196.97.131...   
   >>> "Dechucka"  wrote in   
   >>> news:cLydncPSNcawbfrOnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@westnet.com.au:   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "RD Sandman"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:XnsA324592B2CB21Hopewell@216.196.97.131...   
   >>>>> "Dechucka"  wrote in   
   >>>>> news:_eCdnYD_FMD4gPrOnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@westnet.com.au:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> "Guy Fawkes"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:XnsA323D9675DBC4Wereofftoseethewizrd@78.46.70.116...   
   >>>>>>> "Dechucka"  wrote in   
   >>>>>>> news:IvKdnXBymeGgAPvOnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@westnet.com.au:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Shown by who? Almost every "scientific" study that goes against   
   >>> gun   
   >>>>>>>>> ownership has been determined to be a fraud perpetrated by   
   > lefties   
   >>>>>>>>> with   
   >>>>>>> an   
   >>>>>>>>> agenda.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> actually you are incorrect   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Actually, I am quite correct. Kellerman, Bellesiles, etc.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> In your imagination maybe   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Kellerman's studies have been proven false in some cases and   
   >>> Bellesiles   
   >>>>> faked his data to the point where he has been completely discredited   
   >>> and   
   >>>>> is no longer employed at Emory University.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You may feel free to look them up for yourself if you wish.   
   >>> Kellerman's   
   >>>>> first study claimed a ration of 43 to 1.  After he sobered up he did   
   >>>>> another study and came up with 2.7 to 1.  He is also on record as   
   >>> having   
   >>>>> stated that if his wife were being threatened he would want her   
   > armed   
   >>>>> with a .38 revolver.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That is not all of them   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> You specifically mentioned two.....Kellerman and Bellsiles.   
   >>   
   >> no I didn't   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   > This then wasn't your comment:   
   >   
   > " Actually, I am quite correct. Kellerman, Bellesiles, etc."   
   >   
   > That was Guy Fawkes.+   
   >   
   >   
      
   Yes he failed to identify any of the "many studies" he was quoting and I   
   felt it neccessary to mention the 2 I knew of. Just to help him out.   
      
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