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   From: murff@warlock.org   
      
   On Sat, 10 May 2014 10:38:43 +1000, Dechucka wrote:   
      
   > "Murff"  wrote in message   
   > news:lkjre9$fhn$5@dont-email.me...   
   >> On Sat, 10 May 2014 10:16:00 +1000, Dechucka wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> AH the correlation argument, Fact is if  you have a gun in the house   
   >>> you are more likely to commit suicuide or kill someone. NEXT   
   >>   
   >> "Next" my arse. The *fact* is you're being challenged on the legitimacy   
   >> of your assertion and you're trying to respond with more assertion.   
   >   
   > The data shows it   
      
   No. That is a very fundamental piece of misunderstanding.   
      
   *Data* never shows anything. It can't. That is the difference between   
   data and information. And, of course, the reason why statistics are   
   proverbially worse than "damned lies" :-)   
      
   >> Won't work, mate. You're making a positive assertion, you're being   
   >> invited to *prove* it.   
   >   
   > done.   
      
   Well, erm, no it isn't "done". All you've done is made assertions...   
      
   ... which is why I'm asking.   
      
   > you want more happy to provide it   
      
   Go on then. I'm waiting (at least until it stops tipping down with rain   
   here at which point I'll be off shooting). I suspect these American   
   gentlemen would be interested in some information, too.   
      
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