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   From: murff@warlock.org   
      
   On Sun, 11 May 2014 22:26:09 -0400, Scout wrote:   
      
   > "Murff"  wrote in message   
   > news:lkp45h$q4k$5@dont-email.me...   
   >> On Sun, 11 May 2014 19:11:34 -0400, Scout wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> And more and more I see absolutely no reason for anyone to volunteer   
   >>> to submit to your little tests....   
   >>   
   >> That is because you insist on assuming I mean government-mandated   
   >> tests.   
   >   
   > On the contrary, if they were mandated then they wouldn't have to   
   > volunteer.....   
      
   You presumably think you're making a point with that one. Not clear what   
   it is, though.   
      
   > And I'm still seeing less and less reason for anyone to do anything to   
   > make you "comfortable".   
      
   *My* comfort is guaranteed. Whether you see any reason to do anything   
   about that is entirely irrelevant because your position has no effect.   
   I live somewhere where nobody feels compelled to carry a firearm,   
   concealed or otherwise, either for personal protection or to make some   
   kind of political statement against a government that their fellow   
   citizens voted for. I get to shoot as and when I want. I get to have a   
   glass of wine with a meal or a beer with mates and the guns stay in the   
   safe when I do so with no diminution of my personal security or political   
   satisfaction whatever.   
      
   Nor does anybody want to volunteer to change that - there is no movement,   
   for example, promoting the idea of introducing concealed carry laws here.   
   People seem to prefer the freedom not to have to bother about it and to   
   get on with other things.   
      
   Your comfort, I don't know about. I hope you are comfortable.   
      
   But the side-effects of the way Americans enjoy their firearms freedoms,   
   compared to the way the British enjoy theirs, are interesting. Many   
   American individual shooters are sane, and safe shots. Rather too many   
   aren't, though, or the Telegraph, a conservative British newspaper,   
   wouldn't be able to have articles such as this one: http://   
   www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10516913/Interactive-   
   graphic-the-23-US-mass-shootings-since-Sandy-Hook.html   
      
   A similar search on the UK (mass shootings in ...) gives zero.   
      
   Now, back to these governments you have that are voted in by your fellow   
   citizens. The ones you reckon are a threat to your rights. The ones whose   
   legislative action makes *you* uncomfortable. They really don't do that   
   because of some conspiracy. They do it because their constituencies ask   
   them to.   
      
   I hope you're comfortable. But if you're not then you're being less than   
   honest with yourself if you deny that some of that discomfort is your own   
   fault.   
      
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   Murff...   
      
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