XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution.gun-rights, alt.guns, alt.rec.guns   
   XPost: talk.politics.guns   
   From: tombiasi@optonline.net   
      
   On 7/17/2014 6:28 PM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   > On 7/17/2014 2:53 PM, Tom Biasi wrote:   
   >> On 7/17/2014 11:49 AM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>> On 7/17/2014 2:37 AM, RL wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "Being Honest Messed Up My Life"   
   >>>>   
   >>>> By Nicki Kenyon, July 14th 2014   
   >>>>   
   >>>> JPFO writer contributor, © 2014.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Recently, a young, single, law abiding mom from Pennsylvania made the   
   >>>> mistake of driving into New Jersey, while carrying her legally   
   >>>> purchased   
   >>>> firearm. Shaneen Allen says she did not know that her legally-obtained   
   >>>> concealed carry permit was not valid in New Jersey. She got the   
   >>>> concealed carry permit (after filling out paperwork, passing a   
   >>>> background check and getting mandatory training), because she wanted to   
   >>>> keep herself and her children safe. She had gotten robbed several   
   >>>> times,   
   >>>> and this hard-working young lady, who works two jobs to support her   
   >>>> family, now may be facing a mandatory three years in prison for   
   >>>> accidentally crossing into New Jersey with her tool of self-defense.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> What? How could this be? Why?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> During a routine traffic stop, Allen did what she felt was the right   
   >>>> thing to do. She told the officer that she was licensed and was   
   >>>> carrying   
   >>>> her firearm. And because she was honest...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ...she now faces prison, charged with unlawful possession of a weapon   
   >>>> and of hollow-point bullets which were in the gun - a second-degree   
   >>>> felony in New Jersey, which holds a minimum sentence of three-years in   
   >>>> prison.   
   >>>   
   >>> "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free   
   >>> State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be   
   >>> infringed.   
   >>>   
   >>> There is no exception for New Jersey.   
   >>>   
   >> I live in Jersey, and believe me I am no fan of the gun laws.   
   >> States set the gun laws. If you travel around the country you need to   
   >> know the laws in each state.   
   >> How could she be so ignorant as to think she could carry in New Jersey?   
   >> Anyone who follows carry law knows to stay the hell out of Jersey.   
   >   
   > Yes, I'm not absolving her of her responsibility in the matter.  Most   
   > definitely every state is different, and unconstitutionally so.  I don't   
   > know if this particular case is suitable for challenge on constitutional   
   > grounds, but it clearly is a manifestation of unconstitutional NJ laws   
   > that infringe the rights of citizens and do not protect privileges.  NJ   
   > is hardly alone in that respect.  My state (NV) is equally abhorrent (if   
   > not more so) in reciprocity recognition.   
   This is up for discussion at this time and there are several groups that   
   believe this., but as of now she is a lawbreaker in NJ.   
      
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