XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution.gun-rights, alt.guns, alt.rec.guns   
   XPost: talk.politics.guns   
   From: none@none.com   
      
   On 7/17/2014 4:46 PM, Tom Biasi wrote:   
   > On 7/17/2014 6:28 PM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >> On 7/17/2014 2:53 PM, Tom Biasi wrote:   
   >>> On 7/17/2014 11:49 AM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>>> On 7/17/2014 2:37 AM, RL wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "Being Honest Messed Up My Life"   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> By Nicki Kenyon, July 14th 2014   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> JPFO writer contributor, © 2014.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Recently, a young, single, law abiding mom from Pennsylvania made the   
   >>>>> mistake of driving into New Jersey, while carrying her legally   
   >>>>> purchased   
   >>>>> firearm. Shaneen Allen says she did not know that her legally-obtained   
   >>>>> concealed carry permit was not valid in New Jersey. She got the   
   >>>>> concealed carry permit (after filling out paperwork, passing a   
   >>>>> background check and getting mandatory training), because she   
   >>>>> wanted to   
   >>>>> keep herself and her children safe. She had gotten robbed several   
   >>>>> times,   
   >>>>> and this hard-working young lady, who works two jobs to support her   
   >>>>> family, now may be facing a mandatory three years in prison for   
   >>>>> accidentally crossing into New Jersey with her tool of self-defense.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What? How could this be? Why?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> During a routine traffic stop, Allen did what she felt was the right   
   >>>>> thing to do. She told the officer that she was licensed and was   
   >>>>> carrying   
   >>>>> her firearm. And because she was honest...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> ...she now faces prison, charged with unlawful possession of a weapon   
   >>>>> and of hollow-point bullets which were in the gun - a second-degree   
   >>>>> felony in New Jersey, which holds a minimum sentence of three-years in   
   >>>>> prison.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free   
   >>>> State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be   
   >>>> infringed.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There is no exception for New Jersey.   
   >>>>   
   >>> I live in Jersey, and believe me I am no fan of the gun laws.   
   >>> States set the gun laws. If you travel around the country you need to   
   >>> know the laws in each state.   
   >>> How could she be so ignorant as to think she could carry in New Jersey?   
   >>> Anyone who follows carry law knows to stay the hell out of Jersey.   
   >>   
   >> Yes, I'm not absolving her of her responsibility in the matter.  Most   
   >> definitely every state is different, and unconstitutionally so.  I don't   
   >> know if this particular case is suitable for challenge on constitutional   
   >> grounds, but it clearly is a manifestation of unconstitutional NJ laws   
   >> that infringe the rights of citizens and do not protect privileges.  NJ   
   >> is hardly alone in that respect.  My state (NV) is equally abhorrent (if   
   >> not more so) in reciprocity recognition.   
   > This is up for discussion at this time and there are several groups that   
   > believe this., but as of now she is a lawbreaker in NJ.   
      
   Yes, that is correct.  There is a law, she broke it, and will more than   
   likely face the consequences (i.e. won't challenge the   
   constitutionality).  One day, I hope, a case like this will make it to   
   the supreme Court and we'll get some just constitutional adjudication.   
   I know, I know, I'm just a foolish dreamer.  Gotta cling to something...   
      
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