XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution.gun-rights, alt.guns, alt.rec.guns
XPost: talk.politics.guns
From: none@none.com
On 7/18/2014 11:10 AM, Scout wrote:
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>
> "Peter Franks" wrote in message
> news:lqa708$j43$2@dont-email.me...
>> On 7/17/2014 4:46 PM, Tom Biasi wrote:
>>> On 7/17/2014 6:28 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
>>>> On 7/17/2014 2:53 PM, Tom Biasi wrote:
>>>>> On 7/17/2014 11:49 AM, Peter Franks wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/17/2014 2:37 AM, RL wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Being Honest Messed Up My Life"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By Nicki Kenyon, July 14th 2014
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JPFO writer contributor, © 2014.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recently, a young, single, law abiding mom from Pennsylvania made
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> mistake of driving into New Jersey, while carrying her legally
>>>>>>> purchased
>>>>>>> firearm. Shaneen Allen says she did not know that her
>>>>>>> legally-obtained
>>>>>>> concealed carry permit was not valid in New Jersey. She got the
>>>>>>> concealed carry permit (after filling out paperwork, passing a
>>>>>>> background check and getting mandatory training), because she
>>>>>>> wanted to
>>>>>>> keep herself and her children safe. She had gotten robbed several
>>>>>>> times,
>>>>>>> and this hard-working young lady, who works two jobs to support her
>>>>>>> family, now may be facing a mandatory three years in prison for
>>>>>>> accidentally crossing into New Jersey with her tool of self-defense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What? How could this be? Why?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> During a routine traffic stop, Allen did what she felt was the right
>>>>>>> thing to do. She told the officer that she was licensed and was
>>>>>>> carrying
>>>>>>> her firearm. And because she was honest...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...she now faces prison, charged with unlawful possession of a
>>>>>>> weapon
>>>>>>> and of hollow-point bullets which were in the gun - a second-degree
>>>>>>> felony in New Jersey, which holds a minimum sentence of
>>>>>>> three-years in
>>>>>>> prison.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
>>>>>> State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>>>>>> infringed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no exception for New Jersey.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I live in Jersey, and believe me I am no fan of the gun laws.
>>>>> States set the gun laws. If you travel around the country you need to
>>>>> know the laws in each state.
>>>>> How could she be so ignorant as to think she could carry in New
>>>>> Jersey?
>>>>> Anyone who follows carry law knows to stay the hell out of Jersey.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I'm not absolving her of her responsibility in the matter. Most
>>>> definitely every state is different, and unconstitutionally so. I
>>>> don't
>>>> know if this particular case is suitable for challenge on
>>>> constitutional
>>>> grounds, but it clearly is a manifestation of unconstitutional NJ laws
>>>> that infringe the rights of citizens and do not protect privileges. NJ
>>>> is hardly alone in that respect. My state (NV) is equally abhorrent
>>>> (if
>>>> not more so) in reciprocity recognition.
>>> This is up for discussion at this time and there are several groups that
>>> believe this., but as of now she is a lawbreaker in NJ.
>>
>> Yes, that is correct. There is a law, she broke it, and will more
>> than likely face the consequences (i.e. won't challenge the
>> constitutionality). One day, I hope, a case like this will make it to
>> the supreme Court and we'll get some just constitutional adjudication.
>> I know, I know, I'm just a foolish dreamer. Gotta cling to something...
>
> Her only hope at this point, other than an expensive and lengthy appeal
> process, is jury nullification.
>
> Just goes to show it is never in your best interest to talk to the
> police. EVER.
>
> Along that line, here is a link to a video that I would recommend
> EVERYONE to watch.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
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