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From: me4guns@centurylink.removeme.this2.nospam.net
"Peter Franks" wrote in message
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> On 7/17/2014 4:46 PM, Tom Biasi wrote:
>> On 7/17/2014 6:28 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
>>> On 7/17/2014 2:53 PM, Tom Biasi wrote:
>>>> On 7/17/2014 11:49 AM, Peter Franks wrote:
>>>>> On 7/17/2014 2:37 AM, RL wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Being Honest Messed Up My Life"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By Nicki Kenyon, July 14th 2014
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JPFO writer contributor, © 2014.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recently, a young, single, law abiding mom from Pennsylvania made the
>>>>>> mistake of driving into New Jersey, while carrying her legally
>>>>>> purchased
>>>>>> firearm. Shaneen Allen says she did not know that her
>>>>>> legally-obtained
>>>>>> concealed carry permit was not valid in New Jersey. She got the
>>>>>> concealed carry permit (after filling out paperwork, passing a
>>>>>> background check and getting mandatory training), because she
>>>>>> wanted to
>>>>>> keep herself and her children safe. She had gotten robbed several
>>>>>> times,
>>>>>> and this hard-working young lady, who works two jobs to support her
>>>>>> family, now may be facing a mandatory three years in prison for
>>>>>> accidentally crossing into New Jersey with her tool of self-defense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What? How could this be? Why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> During a routine traffic stop, Allen did what she felt was the right
>>>>>> thing to do. She told the officer that she was licensed and was
>>>>>> carrying
>>>>>> her firearm. And because she was honest...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...she now faces prison, charged with unlawful possession of a weapon
>>>>>> and of hollow-point bullets which were in the gun - a second-degree
>>>>>> felony in New Jersey, which holds a minimum sentence of three-years
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> prison.
>>>>>
>>>>> "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
>>>>> State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>>>>> infringed.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no exception for New Jersey.
>>>>>
>>>> I live in Jersey, and believe me I am no fan of the gun laws.
>>>> States set the gun laws. If you travel around the country you need to
>>>> know the laws in each state.
>>>> How could she be so ignorant as to think she could carry in New Jersey?
>>>> Anyone who follows carry law knows to stay the hell out of Jersey.
>>>
>>> Yes, I'm not absolving her of her responsibility in the matter. Most
>>> definitely every state is different, and unconstitutionally so. I don't
>>> know if this particular case is suitable for challenge on constitutional
>>> grounds, but it clearly is a manifestation of unconstitutional NJ laws
>>> that infringe the rights of citizens and do not protect privileges. NJ
>>> is hardly alone in that respect. My state (NV) is equally abhorrent (if
>>> not more so) in reciprocity recognition.
>> This is up for discussion at this time and there are several groups that
>> believe this., but as of now she is a lawbreaker in NJ.
>
> Yes, that is correct. There is a law, she broke it, and will more than
> likely face the consequences (i.e. won't challenge the constitutionality).
> One day, I hope, a case like this will make it to the supreme Court and
> we'll get some just constitutional adjudication. I know, I know, I'm just
> a foolish dreamer. Gotta cling to something...
Her only hope at this point, other than an expensive and lengthy appeal
process, is jury nullification.
Just goes to show it is never in your best interest to talk to the police.
EVER.
Along that line, here is a link to a video that I would recommend EVERYONE
to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
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