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   Voter to All   
   No one should fear a man with a gun, of    
   24 Feb 18 14:19:09   
   
   XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.military, us.military.navy   
   XPost: aus.politics.guns, uk.politics.guns   
   From: Voter@Vote2016.com   
      
   But what to do about hoodlums...   
      
      
   The people are not meant to be powerless,   
      
   and a government, not of the militia, is a government not of the people.   
      
      
   The problem is just some people who intend to rob, and escalate insults with   
   gunfire.   
      
      
   We're supposed to love our country, and not be at war with it.   
      
   We're supposed to lead our countrymen, and include everybody.   
      
   We're supposed to lead to the truth, and serve the truth.   
      
   "When the people fear the government there is tyranny.   
   When the government fears the people there is liberty.   
   When no on fears anyone there is America."   
      
   If you're going to bear a gun for self defense, you should have a self defense   
   plan.  Maybe we want to bundle the sale of a gun with a self defense course   
   and a   
   gun safety course.   
      
   Motives for crime are:   
   1. Violating the government's dishonest prohibition statutes.  Which is not a   
   crime, but a right!   
   2. Stealing others Property and Sex - which are "the mountain between us."   
   3. Criminal Insanity. - In the first: bullying, and victimization as the   
   motive;   
   (criminally insane who kill cats, torture puppies, and want to hurt others -   
   and   
   who need to know that by hurting others they're only hurting themselves more -   
   if   
   they ever realize their humanity - some may in this lifetime, some may not).   
   And in the second: escalating insults, and vengeance.   
      
   There should be no reason to commit crime in America.   
      
   We deserve a free country and have been promised one all along.   
   But freedom depends also upon prosperity and abundance and economic   
   egalitarianism.  We can't hope to be free when we live next door to countrymen   
   who   
   are poor, and we have no charity as a government, to help them improve their   
   fortunes.  A complete understanding of the macro economy is essential, and   
   people   
   at least need help getting started, like an education, and it's possible that   
   economic inequality by the hour just shouldn't be allowed to exist (this would   
   require forced capital savings accounts).   
      
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   "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who   
   approaches   
   that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force.   
   Whenever   
   you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man   
   be   
   armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."   
   - Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778   
      
   "This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.... The right of self   
   defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study   
   of   
   rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever   
   standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms   
   is,   
   under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already   
   annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."   
   - St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1803   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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