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   From: Voter@Vote2016.com   
      
   Cops are not going to protect students.  Armed teachers are not going to   
   protect   
   students either.  If all the teachers are armed, they might defend _themselves_   
   which might increase the chances of a psycho-killer being gunned down before he   
   shoots any other students.  _Or_ a teacher could stand by the door of the   
   classroom, ready to shoot the psycho if he comes towards it - and defend him or   
   herself, and his or her students in the process.  Only if correct to stay in   
   the   
   room and not evacuate.  But if the psycho starts shooting at lunchtime, the   
   teachers are not going to be able to defend anyone but themselves.  It's a   
   fight   
   or flight situation, and anyone with a brain is going to run for their lives.    
   The   
   only way to defend the students, is for the students to defend themselves with   
   firearms. Period.   
      
   The notion that the Mayor is not just angry, but furious, or that a cop   
   resigned   
   for not rushing in, is ridiculous.  I didn't read these stories closely, but   
   such   
   ideas on the face of it, are tragic.  The cops waited outside at Sandy Hook,   
   the   
   cops waited outside at Vegas, this is the way things work.  Without S.W.A.T.,   
   your   
   dead duck alone.  Cops fled in the L.A. riots, they did not stand their ground   
   and   
   defend people.   
      
   Given reports of a violent and dangerous situation, if not S.W.A.T., the cops   
   will   
   at least assemble 10-12 cop cars before rushing in, or even arriving at the   
   scene.   
   This can take a half an hour.	   
      
   Realize that in such a situation, there is one person, and one person alone   
   who is   
   going to defend you: YOU.   
      
   Thus what we need is a better discussion on self-defense.  Self Defense has to   
   be   
   made truthful, clear and simple to everybody.  Don't use guns in "crime."  But   
   there would basically, be no "crime," if not for the property problem.  It's   
   all   
   for property.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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