XPost: ont.general, ont.politics   
   From: Canuck57@nospam.com   
      
   On 28/03/2010 10:58 AM, Nobody wrote:   
   > Canuck57 wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 27/03/2010 6:34 PM, Nobody wrote:   
   >>> PV wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Canuck57 wrote:   
   >>>>> On 26/03/2010 8:21 PM, The Henchman wrote:   
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   >>>>> EI, history.  Welfare only for those really at the bottom.   
   >>>>> Gone will be the days of owning cars homes and collecting EI   
   >>>>> and welfare. Reserve social assistance to those that really   
   >>>>> need it and lazy, drugs, flop house mamas don't qualify.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Your ignorance is simply stunning by it's breadth and width.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Laid off last July and looking for work for six months, EI kept   
   >>>> my family fed and kept the roof over our heads.  Stuff your   
   >>>> generalizations and talk about something you really know about.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Twenty four years of paying into EI and it kept us off the   
   >>>> welfare rolls.   
   >>>   
   >>> The point is, they pay a pittance and, if you make too much in   
   >>> the year, you have to pay it back.  What kind of 'insurance' does   
   >>> that?   
   >>>   
   >>> There are, I believe, about 50 or so different 'zones' for EI.  I   
   >>> understand that if you live in Alberta, for example, you have to   
   >>> work the most time before collecting and get the least benefit.   
   >>> If you are a Newfie fisherman, it is WAY different.  What kind of   
   >>> bullshit is that?   
   >>   
   >> Federal vote buying.  Think, many a east coasters were to list   
   >> their most predominant profession honestly, it would be EI   
   >> Recipient.   
   >>   
   >> EI is nothing more than an employment tax.  For decades skimed by   
   >> the governemnt and now they are raising it's rates.  People should   
   >> be allowed to opt out of this tax grab.  Allow me to put it into a   
   >> LIRA/RRSP and be ineligible for EI there after.   
   >   
   > That's what I did with money that would have gone to CPP while I   
   > worked overseas.  I made a lot more investing it than CPP will ever   
   > pay me.  Mind you, when I do collect CPP, my monthly government   
   > payment likely won't cover the cost of a case of beer.   
      
   Same here.  Ottawa tried to talk me into paying CPP/EI/taxes while I   
   lived abroad and I said no way.  Saved the difference and LMAO to the bank.   
      
   CPP in Canada is going to be a target sooner or later.  The government   
   is so far into debt spending that at some point it will collapse and so   
   will the social programs.  Government cannot sustain this liberal debt   
   philophy going forward.   
      
   And CCP isn't near enough to live on as it is. Going to get down to   
   greed, government statism versus the people.  CPP has promised people a   
   lot of money and is in reality unrealized debt not accounted for by   
   Ottawa.  Over the years Ottawa pissed it away in general spending.  That   
   is, there is no magic reserve of cash for the CPP.   
      
   Sort of like screwing workers today for Turdeau debt spend of the past.   
     Liberal spending.   
      
   My guess is government is going to look for any excuse it can muster to   
   cut and pull it back, in effect welshing on the social contract.  Going   
   to be a lot of old folks living very poor shortly.  The only silver   
   lining is if a minor recover does occur in say 3 years, there might be   
   jobs for the 65 and up that have to keep working.  But many will not be   
   able too.   
      
   Sad, but true.  And you also get paid more to immigrate to Caanda, which   
   is another bone to pick.  Out old people live a lower standard than   
   unemployed immigrants.   
      
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