XPost: can.general, can.politics, ott.general   
   From: Canuck57@nospam.com   
      
   On 05/05/2010 10:54 AM, M I Wakefield wrote:   
   > "E. Barry Bruyea"  wrote in message   
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   >> On Wed, 05 May 2010 12:10:32 GMT, "Sharx35"   
   >> wrote:   
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   >>>   
   >>> "M I Wakefield"  wrote in message   
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   >>>>   
   >>>> "Canuck57"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:oU3En.105831$u62.10251@newsfe10.iad...   
   >>>>> On 04/05/2010 11:13 AM, M I Wakefield wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> 1966 would have been a fairer baseline, since that was the year the   
   >>>>>> CPP   
   >>>>>> was   
   >>>>>> introduced.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> AND while they talk of income tax going up, how many new taxes do we   
   >>>>> pay   
   >>>>> today that didn't even exist back in the 60's.  GST is just one example   
   >>>>> but there are litterally many dozens of hidden taxes that have been   
   >>>>> added   
   >>>>> or gone up not included.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That is why we need to control out governemtns spending, we need to   
   >>>>> move   
   >>>>> it to a referundum and remove this budgetary power from corrupt   
   >>>>> pandering   
   >>>>> politicians.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The GST replaced the Manufacturer's Sales Tax, which was levied at the   
   >>>> factory gate, and despite the name, discouraged manufacturing and   
   >>>> encouraged imports.   
   >>>   
   >>> The GST is FUCKING BULLSHIT.  The Manufacturer's Sales Tax was MUCH more   
   >>> easily administered and could have easily been tailored to exempt exports.   
   >>> Any imports that were being imported at unfairly lowered prices could and   
   >>> ARE tagged for anti-dumping taxes.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Canadians are swallowing the same crap on the HST as the did on the   
   >> GST.  Revenue Neutral?  Balls.  All one has to do is sit down and do a   
   >> little basic math on their own situation and take it over a three year   
   >> period.  Forget the McGuintybates, they are only temporary.  As to the   
   >> contention it will create half a million jobs over ten years, talk   
   >> about smoke and mirrors.  Organic growth alone, regardless of any   
   >> taxes or non-taxes will create half a million jobs over the next ten   
   >> years, if not even more, especially with our present immigration   
   >> levels.  Ontario has been subject to more tax/fee increases under this   
   >> idiot than at any time in the provinces history and he ain't finished   
   >> yet.   
   >   
   > When the GST was introduced, there was a cut in the Federal Income Tax rate.   
   > Tough to notice if you lived in Ontario, since the Liberal government of the   
   > day increased the Provincial Income Tax rates, and clawed back every penny.   
      
   True, but the cut was so small you couldn't find it at the end of the   
   year.  THe GST, oh you noticed that.  It was a take 100 and give back 5.   
     Real raw deal and it didn't take mor ethan a year or two and the tax   
   schedules increased enough you ened up being considerably screwed.   
      
   It was a tax grab.  Just government greed.  Keeps the people working too   
   hard to keep what they have, slavery style.   
      
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