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   alea@iacta.est to All   
   Re: Taxpayer Ombudsman can’t fix everyth   
   26 May 10 16:32:41   
   
   c27393dc   
   XPost: can.general, can.politics, ott.general   
      
   His office has no power "to direct the CRA" to do anything.  However, their   
   involvement   
   makes the CRA sit up and take notice when a client contacts the Taxpayer   
   Ombudsman and you   
   can cut through a whole lot of red tape and being shunted or abused by the CRA   
   agents.   
   The very fact that there are "thousands of cases" being referred to the   
   Ombudsman shows   
   just how out-of-control the CRA is.   
      
      
   "Alan Baggett"  wrote in message   
   news:caaae9e4-88f7-4a00-9951-8cea8c02436c@y12g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...   
   Taxpayer Ombudsman can’t fix everything at CRA :CRA SOTW   
      
   Paul Dube and his staff win some, lose some while taking on thousands   
   of cases   
   By Don Cayo, Vancouver SunFebruary 19, 2010   
      
   It has been five years since I wrote my first column in what has   
   become an long-running, intermittent series on taxpayer complaints   
   about the Canada Revenue Agency.   
   It's two years this Sunday since lawyer Paul Dube was appointed by the   
   federal government as Canada's first taxpayers' ombudsman with a   
   mandate to do much the same thing, to expose and rectify those   
   complaints.   
      
   I had some success with my first case: CRA backed down from a ruling   
   that would have re-interpreted old rules and imposed a six-figure   
   reassessment on three Vancouver fruit sellers. I've been as lucky with   
   several cases since.   
      
   Nonetheless, I'm pleased to report that Dube and his staff are batting   
   quite a lot better than me. They've taken on a few thousand cases,   
   compared with my few dozen. They've righted a gratifying number of   
   wrongs, although he doesn't have a precise count.   
      
   Still, I'm left with the uncomfortable feeling the tools Dube has been   
   given are no surer or sharper than mine. In the end, he and I can both   
   only scold, me in print and he more privately, mandarin-to-mandarin,   
   so to speak. Beyond that, all either of us can do is hope CRA will do   
   the right thing.   
      
   Ultimately, despite what Dube describes as a "formidable" power to   
   assume guilt and impose crippling penalties, there's no affordable,   
   effective check on when CRA acts capriciously or decides to dig in. He   
   and   
      
   I are in the same boat in that we can say CRA really should fix some   
   mess or other, but we can't say they must.   
      
   And Dube has no power to order a financial break for people who've   
   been ill-treated.   
   This last point is important.   
      
   Dube told me when he was in the city this month that communication is   
   the most common cause of problems he encounters. I sort of agree, only   
   I call it a failure to communicate, when taxpayers can't reach the   
   people who are making life-altering decisions about their files, when   
   CRA won't answer valid questions for months or years, or when answers   
   change every time a new guy is assigned to the file.   
      
   The recurring theme in the stories I hear is how fast CRA's demands   
   for money ratchet up while the bureaucracy's collective thumbs are   
   twiddling.   
      
   If Dube were to look into many of the cases that come across my desk   
   and find that policies were ignored or misapplied, what good would it   
   do? Because Dube doesn't have the authority to adjust the amount said   
   to be owing.   
      
   Nor does he have the power to do anything about policies that are   
   wrong-headed, although he's sometimes successful in pleading for a   
   break when an across-the-board policy yields a patently unfair result   
   as a result of unique circumstances.   
      
   The upshot, as was noted last fall by the headline on my 39th column   
   on the CRA, is that the main option open to aggrieved taxpayers is to   
   "pay up and shut up or pay up and beg."   
      
   And, as if this level of uncertainty isn't bad enough, it gets worse.   
   A survey commissioned by Dube found that 42 per cent of Canadians fear   
   repercussions if they complain about CRA.   
      
   So I'm pleased that he got the job and that he's able to look into   
   several hundred cases a month, and resolve many of them.   
      
   And I wish him well in his quest to become better-known to Canadians   
   and increase this volume to whatever it needs to be.   
      
   Dube's phone number is 1-866-586-3839. His office accepts only   
   complaints about CRA service, although, he says, that is interpreted   
   quite broadly.   
      
   dcayo@vancouversun.com   
   See Don Cayo's blog on tax iss ues and one on globalization s at   
   vancouversun.com/blogs   
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