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|    Canuck57 to Tony    |
|    Re: Canada Revenue Agency Tax form print    |
|    06 May 11 11:48:56    |
      XPost: can.general, ott.general       From: Canuck57@nospam.com              CRA would love to do that. Its all about the money.              On 22/04/2011 8:38 AM, Tony wrote:       > Those lowlife down and out bastards with little income who pay dick all in       > the way of taxes should be horsewhipped and put in work camps to work. Hard       > labour with no pay for the rest of their lives.       >       > Alan Baggett wrote:       >       >> Canada Revenue Agency Tax form printing error can be costly :CRA SOTW       >>       >> Tax form printing error can be costly       >>       >> By Madhavi Acharya-Tom Yew | Thu Apr 14 2011       >>       >> Morgan Bentham, a 27-year-old photography student at the Ontario       >> College of Art and Design, went online to calculate and file her 2010       >> personal income taxes around the end of March and was surprised to       >> find that she was not entitled to a tax refund, as she had been in       >> past years.       >>       >> “I’ve worked the same part-time job with basically the same hours for       >> three years. So everything should have been the same. It seemed odd       >> that I got nothing but I didn’t really have time to go through the       >> paper forms to double-check because I was busy with school,” Bentham       >> said.       >>       >> Bentham told her mother that she didn’t know if it was worth filing if       >> she wasn’t getting anything back. “I said ‘Yes, it is!’ and grabbed       >> the paper forms just to double check,” her mother Margaret said.       >>       >> Margaret knew that as a student with little income who pays rent in       >> Toronto, Morgan would be entitled to Ontario tax credits that would       >> produce an income tax refund.       >>       >> But Margaret initially came away with the same result — no refund.       >>       >> “I kept reading it and saying, ‘It doesn’t make sense,’ ” Margaret       >> said.       >>       >> That’s when she realized the problem — incorrect instructions for Line       >> 21 on Form ON 479 that wipe out any tax credits that filers added up       >> on the previous page.       >>       >> Morgan should receive $420 in Ontario tax credits, but the error put       >> her at zero.       >>       >> “I called the CRA and I asked them about it and they knew right away,”       >> Margaret said.       >>       >> “But what I don’t understand is why they haven’t done more to make the       >> public aware of the mistake.”       >> The printing error by the Canada Revenue Agency may cost Ontario       >> residents — particularly students, seniors, and those with low incomes       >> — hundreds of dollars in provincial tax credits.       >>       >> The Canada Revenue Agency identified this issue in late November, and       >> online forms were corrected and posted on the agency’s website in       >> early January, a CRA spokesperson told The Star.       >>       >> “The CRA did not reprint hard copy versions of the form because even       >> if the calculation on the paper copy is incorrect, the CRA’s systems       >> will calculate the taxpayers’ credits correctly,” Breghan Paterson       >> said.       >> As well, CRA call centre agents have been advised of this error and       >> can respond to taxpayers’ concerns or taxpayers can also go to the CRA       >> Web site for the correct form.       >>       >> With about two-thirds of Canadians filing their returns electronically       >> these days, it’s difficult to say how many Ontario residents may be       >> affected.       >>       >> Regardless, experts say whether someone files electronically or by       >> paper, CRA’s system will catch any mathematical errors and recalculate       >> the tax bill, adding the credits back in and issuing a refund, if       >> needed.       >> That said, professional tax preparers say the biggest worry is this:       >> low-income Ontario residents who quickly go through the paper forms,       >> believe they are not entitled to any provincial tax credits, and       >> decide not to file a tax return at all.       >>       >> That’s a problem because those people could miss out on a refund       >> cheque, as well as other tax benefits paid by the government such as       >> the GST/HST credit and the Ontario Sales Tax Transition Benefit.       >> The only way to receive those benefits is to file an income tax       >> return.       >>       >> “It’s not just the immediate effect of not filing the return, it’s       >> what else you could be missing out on,” said Cleo Hamel, a senior tax       >> analyst at H&R Block Canada.       >>       >> H&R Block was alerted to the error in February, and told by CRA it was       >> a problem only on early forms and tax packages that had been mailed       >> those who complete their returns manually.       >>       >> Hamel was surprised when told that the error was still on a set of tax       >> forms picked up at the CRA office on Front Street in downtown Toronto       >> this week.       >>       >> “There is an impact with this error. You would expect something like       >> that to be looked into,” Hamel said.       >> “We are in April, close to the filing deadline. There will be people       >> scrambling now to get things together and the last thing on their       >> minds is to worry about whether the forms are correct.”       >>       >> Ontario residents can claim tax credits for rent or property taxes       >> paid. Students who live in residence can also claim a credit. These       >> credits are geared to income.       >>       >> An Ontario resident who has about $15,000 in annual income would be       >> entitled to a maximum property tax or rent credit of $6,000, and the       >> net tax credit would be $370.       >>       >> A senior who makes $10,000 a year and claims $2,100 in rent or       >> property taxes would expect a tax credit of $835.       >>       >> The unfortunate printing error would wipe out these credits.       >>       >> “People who get these credits tend to get them every year,” said Bruce       >> Ball, chartered accountant and national tax partners at BDO Canada       >> LLP.       >>       >> “If they suddenly aren’t getting them, that should be a clear sign       >> that something is wrong with their return.”       >> Ontario residents who file a return will get the provincial tax       >> credits they are entitled to, a government spokesperson told the Star.       >>       >> “Taxpayers who follow the printed instructions are not denied any       >> amounts to which they may be entitled as the CRA system has the       >> correct calculation,’ a spokesperson for the Ontario Minister of       >> Revenue told the Star in an email.       >>       >> “People who use tax software to prepare their returns should not be       >> affected by these printing errors.”       >> The Ontario ministry of revenue also told the Star that Ontarians can       >> visit www.ontario.ca/taxcredits to find out more about the credits       >> they are eligible for. The site includes a tax credit calculator for       >> residents to figure out if they are entitled to receive credits.       >>       >> However, they still need to fill an income tax return.       >>       >> “I would suggest to anyone using paper method, if you picked up a       >> forms booklet or received it in the mail, I would suggest you go back       >> and take a look at that tax return, especially if you’ve filed              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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