XPost: can.general, can.politics, ott.general   
   From: Canuck57@nospam.com   
      
   On 04/07/2011 8:50 PM, John Fleming wrote:   
   > On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:25:42 -0600, while chained to a desk   
   > in the scriptorium Canuck57  wrote:   
   >> $On 03/07/2011 11:55 AM, merlin! wrote:   
   >> $   
   >> $>>  Like I said, people have lots of excuses.  Divorce is nasty when kids   
   >> $>>  are involved, but still, debt is a mater of priorities.   
   >> $>   
   >> $>  Not always. Sometimes it is a matter of government or court imposition   
   of   
   >> $>  invented debt.   
   >> $   
   >> $Court can't impose debt.  Oh, you mean a delinquent dad waits 5 years   
   >> $and all of a sudden must come clean or go to jail?   
   >> $   
   >> $No sympathies here.  In essence the unpaid support is debt that is   
   >> $accumulated debts.  You owe, you pay or your a welsher.   
   >> $   
   >> $>>  I NEVER use the credit card unless I know I already have the cash   
   >> $>>  waiting in the bank.  I use it more like a check book, no money no   
   >> $>>  spendy.   
   >> $>   
   >> $>  Sometimes, the cash you thought you had in the bank has simply   
   >> $>  disappeared. That will leave a debt where you thought you had none.   
   >> $>   
   >> $>  You are too quick to judge.   
   >> $   
   >> $I have NEVER had cash disappear as you mentioned.  Nope, more likely   
   >> $like the account holder smoked too much pot, fried the brains and no   
   >> $longer thinks clearly.   
   >   
   > The other possibility is that it is a joint account, the   
   > other account holder spent something, and didn't fess up.   
      
   But it didn't disappear.  It was spent.  Just mentioning "disappear"   
   says a lot in that he is obviously hiding his culpability.   
      
   > In which case, you and the other account holder need to have   
   > a serious heart-to-heart talk and work through some issues.   
   > Turning a blind eye and claiming the money just "disappears"   
   > does nothing to resolve the problem, and really only makes   
   > it worse.   
      
   Agreed.  That is why it is important for a married couple to work as a   
   team, communicate and if you can't get that BEFORE marriage, DON'T GET   
   MARRIED.   
      
   But granted, such life skills are not taught, but hey, nothing like   
   using the top head before the bottom head.   
      
   >> $>>  Watch "Til Debt Do Us Part".  Great show.  For those that don't   
   >> $>>  believe in financial planing and debt management, skip on to RepoMan.   
   >> $>>   
   >> $>>  Probably got divorced over money too.  Hey, people who manage their   
   >> $>>  finances well even have better love, sex and home life.  You bet, why   
   >> $>>  argue with money when you can make love?  #1 cause of divorce is   
   >> $>>    MONEY. More DEBT is more RISK of a long series of support payments.   
   >> $>   
   >> $>  You need an education in how that really works. The #1 cause of divorce   
   is   
   >> $>  that female partner wants a divorce, often because she is bored with a   
   >> $>  husband who seems to paying little attention to her because he is   
   working   
   >> $>  two jobs so they can stay out of debt.   
   >> $   
   >> $Funny, in may case I left here.  Wanted a real relationship and didn't   
   >> $see having kids with her.  Wise move, think before you screw up your life.   
   >> $   
   >> $Sounds like you chose the wrong woman and decided to prolongate before   
   >> $assuring you had a solid financial plan in a good relationship.   
   >> $   
   >> $>>  The price for financial stupidity is pretty high.  And it isn't like   
   >> $>>  high school where they push you through to get you out into the real   
   >> $>>  world.  Real world is going to grab you by the arse and set reality   
   >> $>>  right into you.   
   >> $>>   
   >> $>>  Hey, I was even divorced once before meeting the right gal.  Came down   
   >> $>>  to having kids and the ex was stupid with money so I said no and left.   
   >> $>>  Smart move too, the next gal was a winner, been with her now over 25   
   >> $>>  years...  No one argument over money, as we had that discussion while   
   >> $>>  dating.   
   >> $>   
   >> $>  You are a lucky man. Some are not so lucky. Lighten up.   
   >> $   
   >> $While I agree luck is luck, don't under estimate using the head on your   
   >> $shoulders to rule the head between the legs, not the other way around.   
   >> $   
   >> $In the end, you make most of your own luck.   
   >   
   > And as I said in my own follow up, the hand life deals you   
   > is less important than how you play that hand.   
      
   Yep.  You don't need a royal flush to win.   
      
   > Went to school with a guy whose father got him summer jobs   
   > most of us would give our eye teeth to get.   
      
   Helps a lot.  Especially if going to school with those bucks.   
      
   > If he'd played that hand right, he could have gotten a   
   > decent education, leveraged that work experience into a   
   > career with a future, and really done something with his   
   > life.   
      
   I will not say it isn't hard.  I know first hand it isn't easy to good   
   from poor to self made.  But it is a choice, and if your not willing to   
   do what it takes it will not be there.  And a major part of that is as   
   you say, investing in ones self with education.  I put myself through   
   school, no help and no loans.   
      
   > Today, he's a career security guard at an old folks home.   
   > And while he has enough work experience to get more than the   
   > minumum wage, he really hasn't amounted to much.   
      
   You reap what you sew.   
      
      
   --   
   Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.   
   ------   
   In Debt We Trust!   
      -- Obama and the democrats, world record in debt incursion.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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