XPost: can.general, can.politics, ott.general   
   From: nospam@thanksalot.com   
      
   Canuck57 wrote:   
   > On 04/07/2011 11:23 PM, merlin! wrote:   
   >> John Fleming wrote:   
   >> ...   
   >>   
   >>>> $>  Like I said, people have lots of excuses.  Divorce is nasty   
   >>>> when kids $>  are involved, but still, debt is a mater of   
   >>>> priorities. $   
   >>>> $Not always. Sometimes it is a matter of government or court   
   >>>> imposition of $invented debt.   
   >>>   
   >>> So you are saddled with some "invented debt".  Why not make   
   >>> paying it off a priority?   
   >>   
   >> Why, so they can invent more debt when you get the first one paid   
   >> off? It's a sick game, and sick people make the rules.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> The new big screen TV and the   
   >>> trip to Mexico at Christmas can wait for another day.   
   >>   
   >> Perhaps, but applying for political asylum and escaping to Nicaragua   
   >> can't.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> Besides, you'll enjoy them more when you aren't wondering   
   >>> how you are going to pay the rent at the end of the month.   
   >>   
   >> You do know this is Canada, right?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>> $>>>  Chances are, if your credit cards haven't been paid in full   
   >>>> every $>>>  month of the last 59/60 months you have a use of credit   
   >>>> problem. $>>>  Maybe bought a home, or cars you could not afford.   
   >>>> $>>   
   >>>> $>>  Or maybe, bought them when you could afford it, and had some   
   >>>> bad $>>  luck or government and court thievery.   
   >>>> $>   
   >>>> $>  I NEVER use the credit card unless I know I already have the   
   >>>> cash $>  waiting in the bank.  I use it more like a check book, no   
   >>>> money no $>  spendy.   
   >>>> $   
   >>>> $Sometimes, the cash you thought you had in the bank has simply   
   >>>> $disappeared. That will leave a debt where you thought you had   
   >>>> none. $   
   >>>> $You are too quick to judge.   
   >>>   
   >>> Cash in the bank doesn't just simply disappear.  You spent   
   >>> it on something.  Did you keep your receipts?  Because if   
   >>> you did, you can figure out where it went.   
   >>   
   >> On the contrary, it does simply disappear, as if by magic (or stroke   
   >> of a pen) to pay the magically-created debts. I've seen it done many   
   >> times to many people.   
   >   
   > It does not disappear.  You spent it.  If you forgot how, get some   
   > medical help.  If the bank is in error, brink it to their attention.   
      
   Not spent. Not forgotten. Not a bank error. Disappeared with the stroke of   
   pen to pay a magically-invented debt.   
      
      
      
   >>>> $You need an education in how that really works. The #1 cause of   
   >>>> divorce is $that female partner wants a divorce, often because she   
   >>>> is bored with a $husband who seems to paying little attention to   
   >>>> her because he is working $two jobs so they can stay out of debt.   
   >>>   
   >>> And if you weren't in debt, you could spend more time with   
   >>> her, right?  Give her more attention, right?  And she'd be   
   >>> less bored with you, right?   
   >>   
   >> That depends on what she finds interesting, I suppose.   
   >   
   > No one forced you to marry her.   
   > No one forced you into debt.   
   > Yet I bet you argued over money.   
      
   Nobody is forced to marry, but there is always an element of risk.   
   Some people are forced into debt.   
   People argue over many things.   
      
      
   >>> And debt is a money problem, right?   
   >>   
   >> Sometimes, debt is a slavery problem. As in: debt-bondage.  Which is   
   >> basically the system we have in Canada.   
   >   
   > Debt by definition IS promissory slavery.  You get money now but   
   > promise over time to return the money.  Entirely voluntary.   
      
   Not always voluntary. What part of this very simple concept are you having   
   trouble with?   
      
      
   > Don't over subscribe and incur frivolousness debt and no problem will   
   > become of it.   
   >   
   >>> Comes right back to Canuck57's point, doesn't it.  That your   
   >>> marriage fell apart because of money issues.   
   >>   
   >> You are mistaken.   
   >   
   > So why did the romance fail?  Be honest?   
      
   I do not know, she never said.   
      
      
   >>>> $>  The price for financial stupidity is pretty high.  And it isn't   
   >>>> like $>  high school where they push you through to get you out   
   >>>> into the real $>  world.  Real world is going to grab you by the   
   >>>> arse and set reality $>  right into you.   
   >>>> $>   
   >>>> $>  Hey, I was even divorced once before meeting the right gal. Came   
   >>>> down $>  to having kids and the ex was stupid with money so I   
   >>>> said no and left. $>  Smart move too, the next gal was a winner,   
   >>>> been with her now over 25 $>  years...  No one argument over   
   >>>> money, as we had that discussion while $>  dating.   
   >>>> $   
   >>>> $You are a lucky man. Some are not so lucky. Lighten up.   
   >>>> $   
   >>>> $>  Choice is yours, and the more in debt, the deeper the hole. Makes   
   >>>> $>  for a longer climb out.   
   >>   
   >> If there someone standing there to shove you back in the hole, there   
   >> really isn't much point climbing out. It might take a few rounds to   
   >> figure out the game, but eventually people do learn.   
   >   
   > So?  Become a bankrupt delinquent loser. No one said the price didn't   
   > have to be PAID.   
      
   Over and over again, apparently. Always someone waiting to create some   
   magical debt, and keep the hamsters on the wheel.   
      
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