XPost: can.general, can.politics, ott.general   
   From: nospam@thanksalot.com   
      
   Canuck57 wrote:   
   > On 04/07/2011 11:28 PM, merlin! wrote:   
   >> Canuck57 wrote:   
   >>> On 03/07/2011 11:55 AM, merlin! wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>> Like I said, people have lots of excuses.  Divorce is nasty when   
   >>>>> kids are involved, but still, debt is a mater of priorities.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Not always. Sometimes it is a matter of government or court   
   >>>> imposition of invented debt.   
   >>>   
   >>> Court can't impose debt.   
   >>   
   >> They can, and they do.   
   >   
   > No, you already incurred the debt and the court just forced you to   
   > realize it.   
      
      
   Nope. The courts magically create debt.   
      
      
   > So are you a delinquent dad?   
      
   No, I am not.   
      
      
   >>> Oh, you mean a delinquent dad waits 5 years   
   >>> and all of a sudden must come clean or go to jail?   
   >>>   
   >>> No sympathies here.  In essence the unpaid support is debt that is   
   >>> accumulated debts.  You owe, you pay or your a welsher.   
   >>   
   >> Or, like a lot of guys, you pull the plug. I understand why they do   
   >> that, it really is hopeless.   
   >   
   > Depends, I never saw a delinquent debtor come back with their self   
   > esteem.  And the damage lasts a lifetime.  It should too as incurring   
   > debt and not paying it back is a greedy form of theft.   
      
   Somehow, I doubt that dead men give a rats ass what you think.   
      
      
   > It even affects your livelihood.  Employers do do credit checks as on   
   > average, good credit is good employees.  Bad credit tends to be bad   
   > employees.   
      
   It's much worse than that. Invented debt, collected by way of garnishee   
   (or even just the threat of it) tends to diminish the employment   
   opportunities of the 'debtor'. And thus begins the downward spiral, for a   
   lot of people who get saddled with unmanageable invented debt. I've seen   
   it happen to a lot of people.   
      
      
   > Easier just to get two jobs, pay them debts off and get your   
   > collective shit together.   
      
   Difficult enough to get one job, when the "creditor" is telephoning   
   potential employers and threatening to sue them.You do not have the least   
   clue how things really work, do you?   
      
      
   >>>>> I NEVER use the credit card unless I know I already have the cash   
   >>>>> waiting in the bank.  I use it more like a check book, no money no   
   >>>>> spendy.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Sometimes, the cash you thought you had in the bank has simply   
   >>>> disappeared. That will leave a debt where you thought you had none.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You are too quick to judge.   
   >>>   
   >>> I have NEVER had cash disappear as you mentioned.   
   >>   
   >> Lucky man.   
   >   
   > Nope.  Just have my eyes open and a good grip of reality.   
      
   From what you have written here, it is clear to me that your conception of   
   reality is extremely narrow and limited.   
      
      
   >>>   Nope, more likely   
   >>> like the account holder smoked too much pot, fried the brains and no   
   >>> longer thinks clearly.   
   >>   
   >> Don't be silly.   
   >   
   > Funny, of all the friends I knew as kids that smoked dope, not a one   
   > amounted to anything.  Not a one.  But the ones that didn't toke most   
   > became something.  Go figure.   
      
   Corelation is not causation.   
      
      
   >>> Funny, in may case I left here.  Wanted a real relationship and   
   >>> didn't see having kids with her.  Wise move, think before you screw   
   >>> up your life.   
   >>   
   >> Good for you. How's the kids?   
   >   
   > Great.  Oldest one has her own business, successful too.  No   
   > complaints there.  To grandkids already too.  All turning out quite   
   > good.   
      
   Only two? Amateur.   
      
      
   > The idea of telling you I too screwed up with my first wife choice was   
   > to show you it isn't futile to correct the issues, move on and get it   
   > together.  Twist it how your denialist brain wants to work...   
      
   I am happy to hear you were able to overcome it. Many do not, through no   
   fault of their own.   
      
      
   >>> Sounds like you chose the wrong woman and decided to prolongate   
   >>> before assuring you had a solid financial plan in a good   
   >>> relationship.   
   >>   
   >> Probably. Like most people.   
   >   
   > It is in my top 5 things to do before getting married.  Yep.   
      
   So, everything in your life is secondary to money?   
      
      
   >>> While I agree luck is luck, don't under estimate using the head on   
   >>> your shoulders to rule the head between the legs, not the other way   
   >>> around.   
   >>> In the end, you make most of your own luck.   
   >>   
   >> Okay. You are smarter than everyone and can look down your nose.   
   >> Congratulations.   
   >   
   > ;)   
      
   Actually, I think I feel sorry for you. I also understand why socialism   
   has succeeded in this country. And, it appears you like it that way.   
      
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