XPost: can.general, can.politics, ott.general   
   From: nospam@thanksalot.com   
      
   Canuck57 wrote:   
   > On 04/07/2011 8:50 PM, John Fleming wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:25:42 -0600, while chained to a desk   
   >> in the scriptorium Canuck57 wrote:   
   >>> $On 03/07/2011 11:55 AM, merlin! wrote:   
   >>> $   
   >>> $>> Like I said, people have lots of excuses. Divorce is nasty   
   >>> when kids $>> are involved, but still, debt is a mater of   
   >>> priorities. $>   
   >>> $> Not always. Sometimes it is a matter of government or court   
   >>> imposition of $> invented debt.   
   >>> $   
   >>> $Court can't impose debt. Oh, you mean a delinquent dad waits 5   
   >>> years $and all of a sudden must come clean or go to jail?   
   >>> $   
   >>> $No sympathies here. In essence the unpaid support is debt that is   
   >>> $accumulated debts. You owe, you pay or your a welsher.   
   >>> $   
   >>> $>> I NEVER use the credit card unless I know I already have the   
   >>> cash $>> waiting in the bank. I use it more like a check book, no   
   >>> money no $>> spendy.   
   >>> $>   
   >>> $> Sometimes, the cash you thought you had in the bank has simply   
   >>> $> disappeared. That will leave a debt where you thought you had   
   >>> none. $>   
   >>> $> You are too quick to judge.   
   >>> $   
   >>> $I have NEVER had cash disappear as you mentioned. Nope, more   
   >>> likely $like the account holder smoked too much pot, fried the   
   >>> brains and no $longer thinks clearly.   
   >>   
   >> The other possibility is that it is a joint account, the   
   >> other account holder spent something, and didn't fess up.   
   >   
   > But it didn't disappear. It was spent. Just mentioning "disappear"   
   > says a lot in that he is obviously hiding his culpability.   
      
   What culpability? You do not understand how things really are for a lot of   
   people in this country. How things are for anyone in this country who   
   offends our lords and masters.   
      
      
   >> In which case, you and the other account holder need to have   
   >> a serious heart-to-heart talk and work through some issues.   
   >> Turning a blind eye and claiming the money just "disappears"   
   >> does nothing to resolve the problem, and really only makes   
   >> it worse.   
   >   
   > Agreed. That is why it is important for a married couple to work as a   
   > team, communicate and if you can't get that BEFORE marriage, DON'T GET   
   > MARRIED.   
   >   
   > But granted, such life skills are not taught, but hey, nothing like   
   > using the top head before the bottom head.   
      
   And you two clowns have a crystal ball to see the future, and mind-reading   
   abilities so you always know when you are being defrauded. How nice for   
   you! No wonder your financial plan worked out so well.   
      
      
   >   
   >>> $>> Watch "Til Debt Do Us Part". Great show. For those that don't   
   >>> $>> believe in financial planing and debt management, skip on to   
   >>> RepoMan. $>>   
   >>> $>> Probably got divorced over money too. Hey, people who manage   
   >>> their $>> finances well even have better love, sex and home life. You   
   >>> bet, why $>> argue with money when you can make love? #1   
   >>> cause of divorce is $>> MONEY. More DEBT is more RISK of a long   
   >>> series of support payments. $>   
   >>> $> You need an education in how that really works. The #1 cause of   
   >>> divorce is $> that female partner wants a divorce, often because   
   >>> she is bored with a $> husband who seems to paying little   
   >>> attention to her because he is working $> two jobs so they can   
   >>> stay out of debt. $   
   >>> $Funny, in may case I left here. Wanted a real relationship and   
   >>> didn't $see having kids with her. Wise move, think before you   
   >>> screw up your life. $   
   >>> $Sounds like you chose the wrong woman and decided to prolongate   
   >>> before $assuring you had a solid financial plan in a good   
   >>> relationship. $   
   >>> $>> The price for financial stupidity is pretty high. And it   
   >>> isn't like $>> high school where they push you through to get you   
   >>> out into the real $>> world. Real world is going to grab you by   
   >>> the arse and set reality $>> right into you.   
   >>> $>>   
   >>> $>> Hey, I was even divorced once before meeting the right gal. Came   
   >>> down $>> to having kids and the ex was stupid with money so I   
   >>> said no and left. $>> Smart move too, the next gal was a winner,   
   >>> been with her now over 25 $>> years... No one argument over   
   >>> money, as we had that discussion while $>> dating.   
   >>> $>   
   >>> $> You are a lucky man. Some are not so lucky. Lighten up.   
   >>> $   
   >>> $While I agree luck is luck, don't under estimate using the head on   
   >>> your $shoulders to rule the head between the legs, not the other   
   >>> way around. $   
   >>> $In the end, you make most of your own luck.   
   >>   
   >> And as I said in my own follow up, the hand life deals you   
   >> is less important than how you play that hand.   
   >   
   > Yep. You don't need a royal flush to win.   
   >   
   >> Went to school with a guy whose father got him summer jobs   
   >> most of us would give our eye teeth to get.   
   >   
   > Helps a lot. Especially if going to school with those bucks.   
   >   
   >> If he'd played that hand right, he could have gotten a   
   >> decent education, leveraged that work experience into a   
   >> career with a future, and really done something with his   
   >> life.   
   >   
   > I will not say it isn't hard. I know first hand it isn't easy to good   
   > from poor to self made. But it is a choice, and if your not willing   
   > to do what it takes it will not be there. And a major part of that   
   > is as you say, investing in ones self with education. I put myself   
   > through school, no help and no loans.   
   >   
   >> Today, he's a career security guard at an old folks home.   
   >> And while he has enough work experience to get more than the   
   >> minumum wage, he really hasn't amounted to much.   
   >   
   > You reap what you sew.   
      
   Maybe, if the locusts don't eat the crop.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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