XPost: can.general, can.politics, ott.general   
   From: nospam@thanksalot.com   
      
   John Fleming wrote:   
   > On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:59:55 -0700, while chained to a desk   
   > in the scriptorium "merlin!"  wrote:   
   >> $Canuck57 wrote:   
   >> $> On 05/07/2011 6:43 PM, merlin! wrote:   
   >> $>   
   >> $>>> It even affects your livelihood.  Employers do do credit checks   
   >> as $>>> on average, good credit is good employees.  Bad credit tends   
   >> to be $>>> bad employees.   
   >> $>>   
   >> $>> It's much worse than that. Invented debt, collected by way of   
   >> $>> garnishee (or even just the threat of it) tends to diminish the   
   >> $>> employment opportunities of the 'debtor'. And thus begins the   
   >> $>> downward spiral, for a lot of people who get saddled with   
   >> $>> unmanageable invented debt. I've seen it happen to a lot of   
   >> people. $>   
   >> $> Hey, if a welsher does not pay, garnishee them, I agree with it.   
   >> $> Letting debt go so far as a garnishee on your part tells me your a   
   >> $> delinquent looser, and you informed your employer too.   
   >> $   
   >> $You are an idiot, with blnkers firmly attached.   
   >> $   
   >> $   
   >> $>>> Easier just to get two jobs, pay them debts off and get your   
   >> $>>> collective shit together.   
   >> $>>   
   >> $>> Difficult enough to get one job, when the "creditor" is   
   >> telephoning $>> potential employers and threatening to sue them.You   
   >> do not have the $>> least clue how things really work, do you?   
   >> $>   
   >> $> So?  Too damned bad.  You behave like a delinquent debtor, suck   
   >> it up. $> You had it coming.   
   >> $>   
   >> $> Your right, I have no clue.  Never tried welshing on a debt in my   
   >> $> life.   
   >> $   
   >> $So, you have absolutely no comprehension of what it's like to   
   >> suddenly be $plunged into unmanageable debt, having done nothing   
   >> wrong. But you insist $that this only happens to welshers, losers,   
   >> irresponsible deadbeats etc. $You are a clueless twit, badly in need   
   >> of an education.   
   >   
   > I'm sure your ex would disagree on the "done nothing wrong"   
   > part.  If you hadn't done something wrong, she wouldn't have   
   > divorced you, right?   
      
   She didn't mention anything like that.   
      
      
   >> $>>> Nope.  Just have my eyes open and a good grip of reality.   
   >> $>>   
   >> $>>  From what you have written here, it is clear to me that your   
   >> $>> conception of reality is extremely narrow and limited.   
   >> $>   
   >> $> Reality and truth are often very limited and exact.   
   >> $   
   >> $And your ignorance knows no bounds.   
   >> $   
   >> $   
   >> $>>> Funny, of all the friends I knew as kids that smoked dope, not   
   >> a one $>>> amounted to anything.  Not a one.  But the ones that   
   >> didn't toke $>>> most became something.  Go figure.   
   >> $>>   
   >> $>> Corelation is not causation.   
   >> $>   
   >> $> True.  But can be.  My experience suggests in this case it is.   
   >> $   
   >> $You said you have no experience of such matters. You deny the   
   >> existence of $such things. You might be wise to admit ignorance,   
   >> rather than dispensing $judgment.   
   >   
   > Face it merlin.  It costs money to support a drug habit. How   
   > long does it take a man to drain his bank account to feed a   
   > cocaine addiction?  And if you are spending your money on   
   > drugs, you aren't spending it improving your education and   
   > training.  Nor are you spending it on keeping your patner   
   > happy.   
   >   
   > And you you spend half your life in a drug induced haze,   
   > you're not giving your girl the attention she wants and   
   > needs either.  Nor are you giving your job the attention and   
   > due dilligence your boss expects you to give it.   
   >   
   > OK, you can argue a drug habit doesn't turn you into a   
   > failure.  Heck, lots of rock and pop musicians pop pills by   
   > the handful and still sell lots of records.  But, on the   
   > balance, if a drug problem doesn't cause failure, it sure   
   > indicative of a deeper problem that does cause failure.   
      
   It's none of my business if someone wants to take drugs, or spend every   
   dime they have on drugs, or whatever it is that turns their crank. I'm   
   pretty sure that it's none of your damn business either.   
      
      
   >> $>>> Great.  Oldest one has her own business, successful too.  No   
   >> $>>> complaints there.  To grandkids already too.  All turning out   
   >> quite $>>> good.   
   >> $>>   
   >> $>> Only two? Amateur.   
   >> $>   
   >> $> Like TVs, cars, stuff, I have only what I can afford to do right.   
   >> No $> delinquent bottom feeding dad here.   
   >> $   
   >> $I suggest it was the women in your life who made that decision, not   
   >> you. $   
   >> $   
   >> $>>> It is in my top 5 things to do before getting married.  Yep.   
   >> $>>   
   >> $>> So, everything in your life is secondary to money?   
   >> $>   
   >> $> Not at all.  My wife is #1.  But money is needed so I keep her   
   >> happy. $> Money helps me get loin strip, her favorite steak which I   
   >> am about to $> cook.  Then we will take in a movie...and some loving.   
   >> $   
   >> $Presumably, the loving is reasonably priced and you never purchase   
   >> more $than you can afford.   
   >> $   
   >> $   
   >> $>> Actually, I think I feel sorry for you. I also understand why   
   >> $>> socialism has succeeded in this country. And, it appears you   
   >> like it $>> that way.   
   >> $>   
   >> $> Actually it always fails.  See Greece as to why and read the   
   >> following $> carefully.   
   >> $>   
   >> $> Socialism is a great idealism as long as someone else pays for   
   >> it. When $> no one is left to pay for it, they can all share having   
   >> nothing. $>   
   >> $> Socialism has always resulted in decay as it ignores the reality   
   >> of $> human need and greed.  And we all have it.   
   >> $   
   >> $That may be true, but when capitalists are as ignorant and as   
   >> $self-righteous as you, it is difficult to blame anyone for being   
   >> sucked in $by the false promises of socialism. hell, this little   
   >> chit-chat with you $and John has even got me thinking about helping   
   >> out the NDP in the next $election, in the hopes that they might   
   >> "re-distribute" your wealth with $some invented debt... and that   
   >> style of education appears to be the only $kind that could ever have   
   >> any effect on the pair of you.   
   >   
   > I expect some of the union hacks who support the NDP make   
   > better coin than I do.  So when it comes to "redistributing   
   > wealth", the NDP might want to start looking through its own   
   > membership list first.   
      
   You know it does not work that way. You, and others like you, will be   
   first in line for "re-distribution".   
      
      
   > If there is a difference between me and some of the so   
   > called "have nots", it's that I choose to live within my   
   > means.  To budget my money and make sure I have some left at   
   > the end of the month.   
      
   I'm sure the NDP will be happy to know that you won't complain, you will   
   simply adapt to the new order order of thngs.   
      
      
   > Believe me, a person can have a six figure income and still   
   > be a paycheque away from bankruptcy.  A person can also earn   
   > a lot less, and still be financially secure.   
      
   So what?   
      
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