XPost: can.general, can.politics, ott.general   
   From: nospam@thanksalot.com   
      
   John Fleming wrote:   
   > On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:40:50 -0700, while chained to a desk   
   > in the scriptorium "merlin!"  wrote:   
   >> $John Fleming wrote:   
   >> $> On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:59:55 -0700, while chained to a desk   
   >> $> in the scriptorium "merlin!"  wrote:   
   >> $>> $Canuck57 wrote:   
   >> $>> $> On 05/07/2011 6:43 PM, merlin! wrote:   
   >> $>> $>   
   >> $>> $>>> It even affects your livelihood.  Employers do do credit   
   >> checks $>> as $>>> on average, good credit is good employees.  Bad   
   >> credit tends $>> to be $>>> bad employees.   
   >> $>> $>>   
   >> $>> $>> It's much worse than that. Invented debt, collected by way of   
   >> $>> $>> garnishee (or even just the threat of it) tends to diminish   
   >> the $>> $>> employment opportunities of the 'debtor'. And thus   
   >> begins the $>> $>> downward spiral, for a lot of people who get   
   >> saddled with $>> $>> unmanageable invented debt. I've seen it happen   
   >> to a lot of $>> people. $>   
   >> $>> $> Hey, if a welsher does not pay, garnishee them, I agree with   
   >> it. $>> $> Letting debt go so far as a garnishee on your part tells   
   >> me your a $>> $> delinquent looser, and you informed your employer   
   >> too. $>> $   
   >> $>> $You are an idiot, with blnkers firmly attached.   
   >> $>> $   
   >> $>> $   
   >> $>> $>>> Easier just to get two jobs, pay them debts off and get your   
   >> $>> $>>> collective shit together.   
   >> $>> $>>   
   >> $>> $>> Difficult enough to get one job, when the "creditor" is   
   >> $>> telephoning $>> potential employers and threatening to sue   
   >> them.You $>> do not have the $>> least clue how things really work,   
   >> do you? $>> $>   
   >> $>> $> So?  Too damned bad.  You behave like a delinquent debtor,   
   >> suck $>> it up. $> You had it coming.   
   >> $>> $>   
   >> $>> $> Your right, I have no clue.  Never tried welshing on a debt   
   >> in my $>> $> life.   
   >> $>> $   
   >> $>> $So, you have absolutely no comprehension of what it's like to   
   >> $>> suddenly be $plunged into unmanageable debt, having done nothing   
   >> $>> wrong. But you insist $that this only happens to welshers,   
   >> losers, $>> irresponsible deadbeats etc. $You are a clueless twit,   
   >> badly in need $>> of an education.   
   >> $>   
   >> $> I'm sure your ex would disagree on the "done nothing wrong"   
   >> $> part.  If you hadn't done something wrong, she wouldn't have   
   >> $> divorced you, right?   
   >> $   
   >> $She didn't mention anything like that.   
   >   
   > Oh, I'm sure she didn't.  But I'm sure she didn't divorce   
   > you on a lark either.  No, there were serious problems   
   > festering in your relationship, and you were as guitly as   
   > sin as far as she was concerned.   
      
   In later years, she admitted that she had been "a real bitch". I am not   
   suggesting that I was a perfect husband, nobody is. However, I certainly   
   did not deserve what the lawyers and judges dish out. I suspect that only   
   1 in 1000 men do deserve that, but they get it anyhow.   
      
      
   >> $>> $>>> Nope.  Just have my eyes open and a good grip of reality.   
   >> $>> $>>   
   >> $>> $>>  From what you have written here, it is clear to me that your   
   >> $>> $>> conception of reality is extremely narrow and limited.   
   >> $>> $>   
   >> $>> $> Reality and truth are often very limited and exact.   
   >> $>> $   
   >> $>> $And your ignorance knows no bounds.   
   >> $>> $   
   >> $>> $   
   >> $>> $>>> Funny, of all the friends I knew as kids that smoked dope,   
   >> not $>> a one $>>> amounted to anything.  Not a one.  But the ones   
   >> that $>> didn't toke $>>> most became something.  Go figure.   
   >> $>> $>>   
   >> $>> $>> Corelation is not causation.   
   >> $>> $>   
   >> $>> $> True.  But can be.  My experience suggests in this case it is.   
   >> $>> $   
   >> $>> $You said you have no experience of such matters. You deny the   
   >> $>> existence of $such things. You might be wise to admit ignorance,   
   >> $>> rather than dispensing $judgment.   
   >> $>   
   >> $> Face it merlin.  It costs money to support a drug habit. How   
   >> $> long does it take a man to drain his bank account to feed a   
   >> $> cocaine addiction?  And if you are spending your money on   
   >> $> drugs, you aren't spending it improving your education and   
   >> $> training.  Nor are you spending it on keeping your patner   
   >> $> happy.   
   >> $>   
   >> $> And you you spend half your life in a drug induced haze,   
   >> $> you're not giving your girl the attention she wants and   
   >> $> needs either.  Nor are you giving your job the attention and   
   >> $> due dilligence your boss expects you to give it.   
   >> $>   
   >> $> OK, you can argue a drug habit doesn't turn you into a   
   >> $> failure.  Heck, lots of rock and pop musicians pop pills by   
   >> $> the handful and still sell lots of records.  But, on the   
   >> $> balance, if a drug problem doesn't cause failure, it sure   
   >> $> indicative of a deeper problem that does cause failure.   
   >> $   
   >> $It's none of my business if someone wants to take drugs, or spend   
   >> every $dime they have on drugs, or whatever it is that turns their   
   >> crank. I'm $pretty sure that it's none of your damn business either.   
   >   
   > It is everybody's business when they are breaking into homes   
   > to steal money to support a drug habit.   
      
   Stealing is my business. Taking drugs is not. See the difference?   
      
   > It's everybody's   
   > business if they use hospital services to treat an overdoes.   
      
   It is, but that is easily remedied by reforming the idiotic tax-funded   
   hospital system. Harming drug addicts (more they they already harm   
   themselves) because people like you have their "universal healthcare"   
   heads up their asses, really does not seem rasonable or fair.   
      
   > It is everybody's business if they get behind the wheel of a   
   > car while high on drugs.   
      
   Public saftey issues are my business. Using drugs is not. See the   
   difference?   
      
      
      
   >> $>> $>>> Great.  Oldest one has her own business, successful too.  No   
   >> $>> $>>> complaints there.  To grandkids already too.  All turning   
   >> out $>> quite $>>> good.   
   >> $>> $>>   
   >> $>> $>> Only two? Amateur.   
   >> $>> $>   
   >> $>> $> Like TVs, cars, stuff, I have only what I can afford to do   
   >> right. $>> No $> delinquent bottom feeding dad here.   
   >> $>> $   
   >> $>> $I suggest it was the women in your life who made that decision,   
   >> not $>> you. $   
   >> $>> $   
   >> $>> $>>> It is in my top 5 things to do before getting married.  Yep.   
   >> $>> $>>   
   >> $>> $>> So, everything in your life is secondary to money?   
   >> $>> $>   
   >> $>> $> Not at all.  My wife is #1.  But money is needed so I keep her   
   >> $>> happy. $> Money helps me get loin strip, her favorite steak   
   >> which I $>> am about to $> cook.  Then we will take in a movie...and   
   >> some loving. $>> $   
   >> $>> $Presumably, the loving is reasonably priced and you never   
   >> purchase $>> more $than you can afford.   
   >> $>> $   
   >> $>> $   
   >> $>> $>> Actually, I think I feel sorry for you. I also understand why   
   >> $>> $>> socialism has succeeded in this country. And, it appears you   
   >> $>> like it $>> that way.   
   >> $>> $>   
      
   [continued in next message]   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)